onionberry said:
how much does it cost |
I dunno, but going by the slims track record
Lawlight said:
The Xbox One S is weaker so technically this should be more expensive. |
It might be weaker but it offers things that the Slim does not. 4K bluray, 4K streaming, HDR, 4K upscaling etc. I wouldn't be shocked at all if the Slim is cheaper than the S.
Fei-Hung said:
I'm sure 4K players don't come cheap. Unlike BR players, an average 4K player will cost you around $300 at retail.
Can't argue about cost being rumours, but saying MS will drop the price is also speculation.
What can't be argued is, the PS4 will be the only console with or without a slim, that will be by far the cheapest entry into VR gaming. As a gaming device, it will leave the X1 in the dust. Not only is it more powerful, but you will be able to game in VR. |
Well the thing is... It already has a bluray player... So does the ps4 and I doubt UHD bluray players cost much more than the ones both of them currently have. Yea the ones on amazon does but since it is "new," they are just simply cashing it in. It is similar to what happened when DVDs/Blurays were new. You could buy an expensive $300 dvd player or a ps2 that can do the same and more.
Considering that the power hasn't increased at all and cheap PC gpus can also do 4k video, it really doesn't cost very much. The console isn't playing games on 4k, just outputting video which pretty cheap hardware can already do. Oh and the x1s of course has weaker hardware than the ps4 which means that the cost is already lower than the ps4/ps4s...
And while MS dropping the price is also speculation, it is a more educated speculation based on Microsoft's History and what companies generally do...
While it is true that PS4 is the cheapest entry to VR, that is still quite expensive considering it is $800. (Ps4 + PSVR + PSEye) Tons of people already have 4k TVs and 4k TVs will continue to sell. TVs have a bigger impact than VR does for a regular consumer and I highly doubt that will change. So MS will market the x1s as a) The only console with 4k/HDR support and when the Neo comes along, the cheapest console the support 4k and HDR.
Again, not saying x1 will suddenly outsell the ps4 but I am saying that the ps4s should have had this.
Edited to make the wording better.
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My inclination is to say they should of had 4k video like the xbox one S but maybe they're planning on going in at $100 cheaper again and winning the battle of slims that way.
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So Sony isnt going to compete with a 4k player in the Slim? Neo has to be a good price now to compete with the Budget X1S 4k market.
Seems like an easy choice for the casual buyer. $800 VR console or a UHD 4k slim with HDR? Since im picking up a 4k HDR TV at the end of the year and i need a affordable UHD player for it, my choice was laid out for me.
MSRP is the most relevant bit of information for the PS4 slim. Safe money bet is on $299.
BoM is also a point of interest, but mostly to see where SCE was able to trim costs.
The Neo is the more interesting story IMO. The slim is just a product refresh and expectations should be tempered accordingly.
It does make the PS4 slim/XBO s discussion more interesting though. Offhand, if the XBO s gets a $299 SKU, it's the better value as a 4K player.
| Azzanation said: So Sony isnt going to compete with a 4k player in the Slim? Neo has to be a good price now to compete with the Budget X1S 4k market. Seems like an easy choice for the casual buyer. $800 VR console or a UHD 4k slim with HDR? Since im picking up a 4k HDR TV at the end of the year and i need a affordable UHD player for it, my choice was laid out for me. |
Casual buyer that buys a 4K HDR tv to pair it with the cheapest 4K UHD player?
Makes as much sense as buying a 11.2 Dolby Atmos amplifier and connecting a pair of headphones to it.
Btw XBox One S does not support Dolby Atmos, DTS:X or Direct bitstream, and is a bit on the noisy side for quiet movie scenes
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/138586-xbox-one-s-4k-ultra-hd-blu-ray-and-hdr-examined-in-more-detail
Nor can it pass through 4K from your cable box through HDMI in.
Of course no clue how well or even if the Neo will play 4K UHD discs. Best is to simply wait untill next year with 4K UHD discs, and 4K HDR tvs for that matter.
It remind me a little when PS3 was one the the cheapest Blu-ray player... but majority of gamers didn't care.
What the heck? Was the slim already announced? I don't recall that happening already...
As for the system, well... it looks like a smaller PS4. The design doesn't look interesting, but then again, the design of a console doesn't really matter as long as it plays games.
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| Bandorr said: Yes I've found that odd. 4K HDR TVs are super expensive so people are going to want to pair it with the cheapest device? Why would the casual buyer want to get a console they aren't going to use - instead of a sleek, small, DVD player that cost almost the same. Specially when you factor in someone wanting to use a remote (which the DVD player comes with) instead of a controller. Also as far as players go - do some of them have more features than others? Better upscalers, more settings etc? |
Yes, better upscaling for blu-ray (XBox One S does not upscale blu-ray nor DVD)
They include dual hdmi out, one for audio in case your amp is not hdmi 2.0 compatible.
Pass through bitstream for Dolby Atmos / DTS:X
Support 3D blu-ray in case anyone still uses that
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-ubd-k8500/
Anyway a serious movie buff investing thousands in a UHD premium tv will go for the Panasonic player
http://www.cnet.com/products/panasonic-dmp-ub900/
Or simply wait until next year when there's more choice, more and improved UHD discs, better and more affordable HDR tvs.
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