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vivster said:

Take THAT people who think Microsoft works with the NSA to spy on you!

I think this hate train on WIn 10 is getting funnier and funnier. Yes, most of the criticism is absolutely fair and correct but it's not like it's worse than any other OS or that anything will change through internet outrage. Eventually  Win 10 will become better and everyone will switch to it, so the more people hate on it the more they will look like a hypocrite when they change to it as well^^

and those who defended Win 8 UI and now hailing Win 10 also look like hypocrites. I am also not sure how people upgrading to an OS AFTER it stops being sucky makes them hypocrites. Your logic is a mess. 



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Sixteenvolt420 said:
vivster said:

Take THAT people who think Microsoft works with the NSA to spy on you!

I think this hate train on WIn 10 is getting funnier and funnier. Yes, most of the criticism is absolutely fair and correct but it's not like it's worse than any other OS or that anything will change through internet outrage. Eventually  Win 10 will become better and everyone will switch to it, so the more people hate on it the more they will look like a hypocrite when they change to it as well^^

People said Windows 8 would get better, it didn't.

It got a lot better, we just call it Windows 10 now.



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LurkerJ said:
vivster said:

Take THAT people who think Microsoft works with the NSA to spy on you!

I think this hate train on WIn 10 is getting funnier and funnier. Yes, most of the criticism is absolutely fair and correct but it's not like it's worse than any other OS or that anything will change through internet outrage. Eventually  Win 10 will become better and everyone will switch to it, so the more people hate on it the more they will look like a hypocrite when they change to it as well^^

and those who defended Win 8 UI and now hailing Win 10 also look like hypocrites. I am also not sure how people upgrading to an OS AFTER it stops being sucky makes them hypocrites. Your logic is a mess. 

I am still defending the Win 8 UI and I think Windows 10 is ok. I don't see why that would make me a hypocrite. The truth is people are idoits and no one gives a shit about how big a start menu is anyway, people just needed to bitch about something new with a bandwagon big enough to make them feel smart. Most people who complain about Windows wouldn't even be able to tell you what an operating system is.

Windows 10 won't change enough before people switch. All these things people bitch about now will be still there when they are eventually switching. It will just be a more stable experience. So yeah, hypocrites. Everyone loves to bash Windows as an OS but look how many people actually have the balls to switch to Linux or Mac OS. Not very many.



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vivster said:
LurkerJ said:

and those who defended Win 8 UI and now hailing Win 10 also look like hypocrites. I am also not sure how people upgrading to an OS AFTER it stops being sucky makes them hypocrites. Your logic is a mess. 

I am still defending the Win 8 UI and I think Windows 10 is ok. I don't see why that would make me a hypocrite. The truth is people are idoits and no one gives a shit about how big a start menu is anyway, people just needed to bitch about something new with a bandwagon big enough to make them feel smart.

Windows 10 won't change enough before people switch. All these things people bitch about now will be still there when they are eventually switching. It will just be a more stable experience. So yeah, hypocrites. Everyone loves to bash Windows as an OS but look how many people actually have the balls to switch to Linux or Mac OS. Not very many.

Oh yeah, the only problem with Windows 8 was the start menu and nothing else. Maybe you should do your homework before calling people idiots.

Bolded: That's enough for people to switch, this very thread exists because of stability issues, stability is one of the main differentiator from beta software.

Once again, your logic escapes me, because it doesn't exist. 



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LurkerJ said:
vivster said:

I am still defending the Win 8 UI and I think Windows 10 is ok. I don't see why that would make me a hypocrite. The truth is people are idoits and no one gives a shit about how big a start menu is anyway, people just needed to bitch about something new with a bandwagon big enough to make them feel smart.

Windows 10 won't change enough before people switch. All these things people bitch about now will be still there when they are eventually switching. It will just be a more stable experience. So yeah, hypocrites. Everyone loves to bash Windows as an OS but look how many people actually have the balls to switch to Linux or Mac OS. Not very many.

Oh yeah, the only problem with Windows 8 was the start menu and nothing else. Maybe you should do your homework before calling people idiots.

Bolded: That's enough for people to switch, this very thread exists because of stability issues, stability is one of the main differentiator from beta software.

Once again, your logic escapes me, because it doesn't exist. 

Maybe because I'm talking about idiot logic and not brain logic. It doesn't matter what other problems there were when 90% of the bitching was about irrelevant design decisions. Every other problem just furthered people's cause on hating on the OS, most of which have never even tried it and been on the band wagon since "OMG NO START BUTTON!!!!"

After that it was. "OMG WIN 10 HAS A START BUTTON!!! BEST OS EVAAAA!!!!" No one gave a shit about the massive amount that was changed under the hood between 8 and 10 because their comprehension stops at a small button in the lower left corner. If you sold Vanilla Windows 8 with a start button and a Windows 10 logo people wouldn't notice the difference and probably still be bitching about Windows 8 while using it.

After that it was "OMG MICROSOFT IS SPYING ON US BECAUSE OF META DATA!!!!!" GET THAT NSA CRAP AWAY FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!". Guess what, those privacy issues will not be resolved ever and people are still gonna switch to it. You know what we call those people? Hypocrites.

And now every single small negative thing is just piling on. The smallest thing gets the biggest media attention because people have already made up their minds. The same made up minds that will suddenly switch to Win 10 despite of the majority of things they complained about has not changed. Hypocrites.

 

Just to be clear, I'm not defending or even advocating Windows or Microsoft here. It's a piece of software that has issues like most software has. I'm just calling out the bullshitters who jump at keywords they don't even fully comprehend.



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vivster said:
LurkerJ said:

Oh yeah, the only problem with Windows 8 was the start menu and nothing else. Maybe you should do your homework before calling people idiots.

Bolded: That's enough for people to switch, this very thread exists because of stability issues, stability is one of the main differentiator from beta software.

Once again, your logic escapes me, because it doesn't exist. 

Maybe because I'm talking about idiot logic and not brain logic. It doesn't matter what other problems there were when 90% of the bitching was about irrelevant design decisions. Every other problem just furthered people's cause on hating on the OS, most of which have never even tried it and been on the band wagon since "OMG NO START BUTTON!!!!"

After that it was. "OMG WIN 10 HAS A START BUTTON!!! BEST OS EVAAAA!!!!" No one gave a shit about the massive amount that was changed under the hood between 8 and 10 because their comprehension stops at a small button in the lower left corner. If you sold Vanilla Windows 8 with a start button and a Windows 10 logo people wouldn't notice the difference and probably still be bitching about Windows 8 while using it.

After that it was "OMG MICROSOFT IS SPYING ON US BECAUSE OF META DATA!!!!!" GET THAT NSA CRAP AWAY FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!". Guess what, those privacy issues will not be resolved ever and people are still gonna switch to it. You know what we call those people? Hypocrites.

And now every single small negative thing is just piling on. The smallest thing gets the biggest media attention because people have already made up their minds. The same made up minds that will suddenly switch to Win 10 despite of the majority of things they complained about has not changed. Hypocrites.

 

Just to be clear, I'm not defending or even advocating Windows or Microsoft here. It's a piece of software that has issues like most software has. I'm just calling out the bullshitters who jump at keywords they don't even fully comprehend.

Well, yeah, I can agree to that. People bitching about Windows 10 privacy concerns on Facebook using Chrome on Android, nothing is as hilarious. 

The truth is; Chrome, Facebook and Android paved the way for Win10. 



JRPGfan said:
This reminds me of that update to win10, that broke drivers for gamepad controllers.
Imo if before a update things work, and after it, they stop, someone didnt test things well enough.

Testing can only go so far. There are millions of different setups out there and not every change will affect every setup. For example neither my DS3 nor my DS4 ever made any problems in Windows 10, even after the bad update.

Don't forget that "millions" is still a very small percentage when it comes to Windows install base. But of course it makes a better headline than "3% of users are reporting webcam issues after windows update".



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LurkerJ said:
vivster said:

Maybe because I'm talking about idiot logic and not brain logic. It doesn't matter what other problems there were when 90% of the bitching was about irrelevant design decisions. Every other problem just furthered people's cause on hating on the OS, most of which have never even tried it and been on the band wagon since "OMG NO START BUTTON!!!!"

After that it was. "OMG WIN 10 HAS A START BUTTON!!! BEST OS EVAAAA!!!!" No one gave a shit about the massive amount that was changed under the hood between 8 and 10 because their comprehension stops at a small button in the lower left corner. If you sold Vanilla Windows 8 with a start button and a Windows 10 logo people wouldn't notice the difference and probably still be bitching about Windows 8 while using it.

After that it was "OMG MICROSOFT IS SPYING ON US BECAUSE OF META DATA!!!!!" GET THAT NSA CRAP AWAY FROM MEEEEEEEEE!!!!". Guess what, those privacy issues will not be resolved ever and people are still gonna switch to it. You know what we call those people? Hypocrites.

And now every single small negative thing is just piling on. The smallest thing gets the biggest media attention because people have already made up their minds. The same made up minds that will suddenly switch to Win 10 despite of the majority of things they complained about has not changed. Hypocrites.

 

Just to be clear, I'm not defending or even advocating Windows or Microsoft here. It's a piece of software that has issues like most software has. I'm just calling out the bullshitters who jump at keywords they don't even fully comprehend.

Well, yeah, I can agree to that. People bitching about Windows 10 privacy concerns on Facebook using Chrome on Android, nothing is as hilarious. 

The truth is; Chrome, Facebook and Android paved the way for Win10. 

Can't be, Chrome and Facebook are great everyday helpers while Windows 10 does nothing and is the devil impersonated.

Until Facebook changes its timeline mechanic again.



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And this is why you don't do forced updates. This is pretty harmless, but the same could happen in a more harmful manner as well. For all I know, Microsoft could get the best of both worlds by simply switching to the model they're going to be using for Windows 7 and 8 in the future: large update packs instead of small, individual ones, but not forced ones.

Also, I don't know too much about streaming codecs, but to me it sounds like they removed support for two popular codecs (as we can see from the results as well) and thought everything would be OK. What did they expect? Or is the Windows webcam API such that devs can use it without having to need what kind of a codec it's going to use? Anyone know? Doesn't sound like that, but what would make Microsoft's actions understandable and shift the blame to webcam devs.