FJ-Warez said: leo-j said: FishyJoe said: I see now your cherrpicking quite nice, thank you for a mod you sure like to troll. How is this trolling??? He is only drawing your thoughts... and yes, we want a minimun of 40 millins to the end of the year... and so far you haven't made a reasonable statement for the defense of your "33 millions" prediction...

No. I actually "drew" this.

Edit:never mind, fixed.

Fastrabbit broke the thread, and I'm sorry Frank, I didn't knew this...

Ok, who broke the thread? Own up NOW!

Thanks leo-j, fun read

FastRabbit, please edit your post; you broke the thread...

They have a point, Leo-J. Your argument has only "it's my opinion" to back it up, instead of actual facts. To point out the facts:

* The PlayStation 2 has managed to sell to roughly 120 million users across a very wide spread of countries, but largely the same market as the 360 and PS3; we'll focus on the US, where it's sold 47 million units in 7 years

* The Wii has greater mainstream appeal than the PS2; even if it fails to appeal to the existing userbase of the PS2, it does appeal to a great deal of the underserved market of people not interested in PS2-style systems

For your predictions to be accurate, not only would the side of the market interested in PS2-style consoles have to be completely uninterested in the Wii, but the underserved market who want to play the Wii but not PS2-style systems would have to be less than 15 million people just in the US alone. In a nation of 300 million people, you expect that .5% are interested in the Wii. Even factored down to an average of 5 people per household, that's 2.5%. Can you understand now why we consider your arguments to hold no basis in reality?

So Leo-J's edit for why he thinks the wii will be at 33million is because demand will drop off..... that isn't a reason. That is him saying he thinks demand will drop off, why would demand drop off? Market saturation? Economic downturn?

That would be like me saying ''I think he DS will only sell 70million by the end of this year'' Then when someone asks me why me answer is ''Because next month demand will drop to zero'' I haven't given a single reason i've just made some insane statement.

Why do you think demand will suddenly drop in Mid 08 Leo? Lets say demand did drop to 360 levels mid 08. So that means what? 2 more months of this level of sales. So being conservative let's say 300k a week for 12 weeks. That's 3.6million. So then at 360 level until late november. So maybe 18weeks? 360 is at 164K a week, but then we need to add 40k for Japan since wii obviously won't drop to 3k a week there. So 200k a week for 18weeks is 3.6million.

So with the end of november and december left, even being conservative following your own estimates Leo we are looking at 30million. So then there are about 6weeks left. The christmas period. It would need to do 500k a week to meet your highest level expectations, which is incredibly easy.

So yea even following your own logic it seems 33million should be your lowest prediction.

Wii demand isn't going to randomly plummet. Especially not with SSBB still to come in europe, Mario kart wii, Animal Crossing, Wii fit in America and Europe etc. At least it should be stable with how it's been performing so far.

I thought it was you...but I wasn't sure if it was just one of those memes that comes up from time to time.

You are immortal....and this is some of your best work.

he is wrong even by his own logic because he is just throwing words up there without thinking it through...he has not shown that he has done any analysis of the situation at all as evidenced by his lack of reasoning for the 'mid-08 dropoff'