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Do you agree?

The numbers don't lie! 13 36.11%
 
Who cares? 4 11.11%
 
I reject your reality and... 19 52.78%
 
Total:36

The plural of anecdote is (Commander) data, as they say.  After looking at the most trusted and/or most used websites for movie reviews/information, I have compiled my findings to see how the Star Trek franchise performs.  I tried not to give any specific rating or site particular merit over another, instead I looked at the numbers to establish a trend.  

For most, ranking the Star Trek movies was easy.  For several, it took a little work---12th and 13th place in particular.  Where Nemesis outperformed the Motion Picture, it wasn't nearly as much as when the Motion Picture outperformed Nemesis, and a couple of the review scores were identical.  Depending on what you consider a more accurate figure for your own personal tastes, 12 and 13 could be interchangable.  Generations was a bit of a weird one, too.

At the top tier, Into Darkness, Wrath of Khan and First Contact looked to be highly competitve but Khan lost steam on the right side of the chart while still holding an edge over First Contact.  Again, depending on which numbers are most relevant to you personally, these can shuffle a bit, though Into Darkness having the BEST Audience Approval Rating on Rotten Tomatoes is what ultimately tipped it into solidifying my conclusion. 

Time will tell if Beyond is worthy of holding 2nd Place, but it's high Tomatometer and BEST IMDB score give it the slot for the time being.

Film                           Tomatometer/Rating                    Audience Approval/Rating (RT)   Metacritic          IMDB

1. Star Trek                95%  (BEST) 8.2/10 (BEST)                91% (BEST)  4.1/5                         82% (BEST)          8.0
2. Beyond                  92%               7.2/10                            TBD              TBD                            TBD                       8.6 (BEST)
3. Into Darkness       87%               7.5/10                            90%              4.2/5 (BEST)              72%                     7.8           
5. Wrath of Khan      88%               8.0/10                            90%              3.8/5                          71%                     7.7
6. First Contact         93%               7.4/10                            89%              3.6/5                          71%                     7.6 
7. Voyage Home       85%               6.9/10                            80%              3.5/5                          67%                     7.3    
8. Undiscovered C.   83%               6.8/10                            83%              3.5/5                          65%                     7.2
9. Search for Spock  78%               6.5/10                            61%              3.3/5                           55%                     6.6
10. Insurrection        55%               5.8/10                            45%              3.1/5                           64%                     6.4
11. Generations        48%               5.5/10                            57%              3.3/5                           55%                    6.6
12. Motion Picture   47%               5.7/10                            42%              3.1/5                          48%                     6.4
13. Nemesis               37%               5.2/10                            50%              3.1/5                          51%                     6.4
14. Final Frontier      21%               4.0/10                            24%              2.8/5                          43%                     5.4   

The Reboot Trilogy has performed the BEST among critics and audiences alike.  Those who think these films are the worst, well, if cold, hard, data from the consensus won't convince you otherwise, I certainly won't be able to.  

That being said, how would you rank these differently and why?  Is there a particular site that you trust more than others?
Where do you think Beyond will end up on this chart and do you think it'll deserve to be there?



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I agree, new Star trek is awesome.



I don't like it, but I think they're all right for an action film. They hold nothing against the TV series anyways.



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deskpro2k3 said:

I don't like it, but I think they're all right for an action film. They hold nothing against the TV series anyways.

The franchise does indeed contain a lot of the best science fiction to have appeared on a screen, and the movies have largely kept their distance from the thought-provoking concepts which built the fanbase.

Personally, I think a DS9 "prequel" dealing exclusively with the Cardassian Occupation of Bajor could have the same emotional and intellectual weight Star Trek as a whole has brought to the table, while still leaving room for things blowing up splendidly.  Of course, if it happened nowadays it'd probably be considered a rip-off of the Hunger Games or Rogue One, rather than being accepted as depicting something that had been fleshed out in morbid detail back in the 90's.



Edit: you know what? I don't want to pick a fight. There's enough fighting in the world. I'm glad some folks find entertainment in the new Trek movies and I'm grateful for folks like Shika and okr who, like me, appreciate the classics.

There's something out there for everyone :)



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People have bad tastes in movies. Outside of a few, all Star Trek movies are awful.

 

Star Trek simply works so much better as a TV show.



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spurgeonryan said:
Well it seems that a few don't like them, but everyone else loves the new ones. I have learned that many on Vgchartz are in the minority. People here usually do not seem to like what is popular in the world. "Ew! Pokemon Go!" "Yuk, CoD!"

But obviously there are plenty who love this stuff

Generations is a favorite of mine.

I forgot Generations!  Gotta get that on the list.  I liked that it had an evil Listener; was really hoping that he and Guinan would have a face-off, or a brutal flashback to the assimilation of their homeworld.  The hype for First Contact could have been inSANE if we got to see the losing fight for a civilization.

I never understood the mentality of wanting to dislike something because it is liked.  Or thinking that popular opinion should overlap with one's own.  



SuaveSocialist said:
deskpro2k3 said:

I don't like it, but I think they're all right for an action film. They hold nothing against the TV series anyways.

The franchise does indeed contain a lot of the best science fiction to have appeared on a screen, and the movies have largely kept their distance from the thought-provoking concepts which built the fanbase.

Personally, I think a DS9 "prequel" dealing exclusively with the Cardassian Occupation of Bajor could have the same emotional and intellectual weight Star Trek as a whole has brought to the table, while still leaving room for things blowing up splendidly.  Of course, if it happened nowadays it'd probably be considered a rip-off of the Hunger Games or Rogue One, rather than being accepted as depicting something that had been fleshed out in morbid detail back in the 90's.

Yes, plus it's so disappointing that when people hear "Cardassian" today everybody thinks about the celebrity family and not the amazing storylines that we got to experience in DS9.

For the record, though, I think a film about the Bajoran occupation would make for an insanely gutsy and likely awsome movie!  Much of DS9's story-telling in its last 3 seasons was close to movie quality, in my opinion.  It would be so easy to make a dark and gritty movie with the storylines that are already available in that franchise.  There's also so much of the Dominion Wars that was unexplained: I would have loved to have seen a movie just devoted to fleshing out some of the story-arcs in the final two seasons of DS9. 



It's not Star Trek to me. They're fine if you want another generic action sci-fi IP and have zero attention span. It's Mountain Dew Trek.



If someone said I had to watch a Star Trek film right now I'd chose Wrath of khan, voyage home and first contact over Into darkness... That film gets worse every time you watch it or even think about it.



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