If people's biggest bother is they copy from other people that must mean they are doing all right!
No, it means they lack innovation.
| oniyide said: If people's biggest bother is they copy from other people that must mean they are doing all right! |
For me, it's reason enough for to generally not buy their products. If it weren't for third party games, I probably wouldn't at all.
Lack of backwards compatibility (it feels like the PS4 is in it's own little bubble), costly PS+ (which I rarely use), and PSNow hogging all of the older titles (very few are even available for download). The PS4 interface is also very sterile, and their exclusive franchises, while excellent, lack the character of even MS, but especially Nintendo.
Honestly, I'm a PS4 owner, PS2 owner, one time PSX owner... and not a big fan of Sony. Their consoles were hosts to a few games I couldn't get elsewhere.
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My only issue at the moment is that the matchmaking or Uncharted 4 ranked matches is the worst I've ever seen...
Leaving the Vita to die is the big one, I know that the market for handhelds has shrunk but I'm disappointed to see how the Vita was left in the dust so early into it's life span.
PS+ killed much of my motivation to play online on PS4. The fee is not worth it to me because alternatively I can play online on Steam with no fee and I'm not interested in the free games since they are tied to your subscription.
CGI-Quality said:
Nah, PC games of the 90s and early 00s would like a word with that. All Heavy Rain did was bring it to a bigger audience. Even then, very few games play like it (which is a good thing, despite my feelings for it personally). |
There wasn't any game before that did cinematic games like Heavy Rain did, where it actually felt cinematic.
GOWTLOZ said:
There wasn't any game before that did cinematic games like Heavy Rain did, where it actually felt cinematic. |
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JWeinCom said:
1: Underlined: You've got to be kidding me right? I called your argument about Nintendo ripping off the Eyetoy awful, failing, ridiculous, etc. This was AFTER I explained how the Wii idea was formed and when it was formed, and that it was literally impossible for it to be a reaction to the Eye Toy. (Which isn't even to mention that the Game Boy Camera was released in 1998). That's not "not knowing how to respond". That is actually a perfect response that contains conclusive evidence that you are wrong. Which you ignored... I also definitively showed that Wii Sports couldn't have been an eyetoy sports rip off because IT WAS DEBUTED BEFORE EYETOY SPORTS. I'd say that's actually a pretty good response. I called your arguments ridiculous, stupid, inane, dumb, fallacious, nonsensical, awful, illogical, fatuous, ludicrous, asinine, and vapid, because I showed that they are. Can you please explain how I have not completely proven you wrong on the Eyetoy inspiring the Wii-mote? Don't complain about my arguments, unless you can actually show the flaws. I've responded to basically every single thing you've said, aside from that one comment. Meanwhile, you've cut out about 90% of the content of my post and completely ignored it. Yet you expect me to reply to every inane point you make? That hardly seems fair. But fine. 2: Considering the shittiness of your other examples, I really didn't feel like bothering to look into it. And since I had already shown that you were dead wrong about Wii Sports being inspired by Eyetoy Play Sports, I really didn't feel like going through the whole process again. But if you insist, I'll show how this one fails again. You mention Volleyball, and there hasn't been a volleyball game in either Wii Sports. You mention Bowling, which was introduced in eyetoy play 3, which was released after Wii Sports reveal. That leaves you with boxing and table tennis, neither of which play or look similarly to the Wii Sports versions. Watch the videos of them, and try to tell me that the two experiences are near the same. 3: Furthermore, Nintendo had been producing Sports games since the 1980s. They started making sports games before the NES was even released. By the time Eyetoy came out, they had already released at least 25 sports games. That includes a bowling game, about 4 tennis games, at least 4 baseball games, at least one table tennis game, dodgeball games, volleyball, 3 boxing games, 7 golf games, and some hockey, football, and other games. Every sport they included on Wii Sports is something they had worked on in the past. Once gyration came to them with a motion controller, it didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it could be used in a genre that Nintendo had been working on for three decades. They were obviously going to make sports games for their new system, and it's dumb to suggest they wouldn't have if Eyetoy Play didn't exist.4: As for the Wii Play example, which seems to be the last one you have left, I admitted that those two games were indeed very similar. Then, I asked you if there were other games in Wii Play that were similar to those found in Eyetoy Play. You ignored that question, like you ignored most of the other things I said, and then acted as if I denied the similarity. So please, stop making a strawman argument. As far as I can tell, out of the 9 games in Wii Play, only one of them is similar to something that is found on Eyetoy Play. If this one minigame is all you have left in your argument, then yeah. The argument is ridiculous, pathetic, stupid, failing, and whatever other negative adjectives you'd like to add. |
1: You're referring to a comment where I was talking about Eyetoy Play, not Eyetoy Play Sports. They're different games. Eyetoy Play launched almost 4 years before the Wii launched.
2: So because you believe my arguments are shitty, you don't bother checking them. That makes sense. Again, your arguments are black and white. You don't think boxing and table tennis in Wii Sports were similar to boxing and table tennis in Eyetoy Play. Unlike you, I've actually played both games and I think they felt very similar in their concepts but that's not even important. Even though you (a random Nintendo fan who hasn't even played an Eyetoy game) think that the games weren't similar, I still believe that the motion controlled Eyetoy series of games possibly inspired Nintendo to make the motion controlled Wii series of games.
3: Sports games ≠ motion controlled sports games.
4: Wow. You admitted (when you're using that word it almost seems like you take it as a personal loss if it was concluded that Nintendo's also inspired) that fishing in Wii Play looks "undoubtedly very similar" to fishing in Eyetoy Play. That's probably as far as I can get you to realize that every company is inspired. So I'll take that and walk away.
I'm open to the possibility that some of Nintendo's Wii games are inspired by some of Sony's Eyetoy games. But with you nothing is probable. What you believe is the only reality. No point in arguing with you :/
harder to critize ps4 than ps3 but..
1. family friendly entertainment.
it's not like they don't make any but they don't do it right. i actually bought the harry potter wonderbook and believe it or not it was pretty good. but sony barely pushed it. sony has the ps4 camera but they don't make games for it. they are like the opposite nintendo in that they are afaid to have a childish market image. i wish there was more on playstation that filled that niche and did it in a high quality manner.
2. ps4 camera
resolution/quality is shit. one of their main businesses is providing high quality camera sensors for smartphones. they could have done much better.
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