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Words Of Wisdom on 02 April 2008
Soriku said:
Kasz216 said:
I just noticed the cowboy had the last name Browning. That rules out my kids theory. Must just be a gender switching alternate universe.

He's also apparently American. Due to the last name being... well last. Guess i should say surname.

Kids theory? Huh?

 


Considering that Excellen looks exactly like Xiangmu... no.

For reference, Excellen:



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Words Of Wisdom on 02 April 2008
Soriku said:
Erm...they look the same...so? How does that rule out Kasz's theory? =/ Unless Browning is Excellen's last name or...? What?

Excellen Browning.

Here's another character you may have seen in the video who looked different...

Kyosuke Nanbu



Kasz216 on 03 April 2008
wenlan said:
Kasz216 said:


There were PSP ones? I had no clue. Something to look into when i get a slimline one to plug in to the TV.

I haven't played W. I don't have a DS. However I do know it marks the first appearance of Go Lion! Aka Voltron.

So how could it be bad? Also you can change peoples themes i've heard.

I'm half considering waiting for a good DS emulator to come out, buy a DS, said SRPGs and then emulate them on my computer.

I know, weird but I don't like piracy. If the DS had some non wacky plug into your TV interface it'd be easier.


Oh my god, I am going to it for sure.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfrgoenvQJ4

Ah i remember watching voltron when i was younger, and never catching on to like 70% of the ways they toned it down for kids.  Like added voiceover scenes and stuff so people who died actually just got "injured" or survived, went back to their planet and never were seen again.

It sure explains why Sven at the end of the series didn't look like Sven at the beggining of the series!

 



Kasz216 on 03 April 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kasz216 said:

Not that i can think of really, you didn't like Tactics Ogre and most games follow that.

I just picked up Soul Nomad and the World Devourers, that seems like a good game. It mixed the Ogre battle and Disgaea styles into a game where you play like disgaea but each unit is actually a squad of guys who make one attack Ogrebattle style based on placement. Though some characters get special ranged attacks.

Gladius I really liked, and is cheap for the gamecube, Xbox and PS2... though there can be balancing issues do to the dumb AI. Summoners destroy everuone, and there are some events only Women can compete in... and no Bonus being a man, so recruiting any male gladiators is a waste of time.

Future Tactics you can find for REAL cheap I imagine, last time I was in a Toys R US I saw it for like... 4.95. In that game the characters suck but it's worth playing for how it's executed. You move in a turn based, like ring format, where you can jump around and try to get on the top of objects... can shoot, while aiming, then duck behind cover. It's a great fresh take that would be better if the rest of the game didn't suck... also a cover system, since it seems cheap what you can do at times.

Front Mission 3 is a favorite of mine. 4 Just doesn't hold the same candle.

I once played an emulated translated Bahamut lagoon at a friends house that had an amazing story, and again Ogre battle meets turn based SRPG style.

Other then that they're mostly derivitive... trying to be Final Fantasy tactics... who was just trying to be Tactics Ogre in the first place. Of course that doesn't matter to me because SRPGs are to me what FPS are to most americans apparently.


The thing about the FFT-style games is that I don't mind them that much. It's just that I found FFT itself to be rather boring. The characters were uninteresting/unremarkable and the plot was one big "meh." The jobs were so-so and the battles were okay, but the storyline just didn't have any momentum. I didn't care about a single character by the end of the game. The end itself was a "meh" too. It wasn't a "OMG that final battle was awesome!" rather it was more along the lines of "Oh, that was the final battle? Whatever."

Gladius I may check out. I find myself trying a lot of older GC games thanks to the Wii's BC.

Bahamut Lagoon looks really good so I may have a look at that too.

Thanks Kasz.


 Ah, yeah i thought the game was pretty run of the mill too for a SRPG but I thought you disliked the PS1 Tactics Ogre too.  Which I thought had a great story, once you got past the translations anyway.

Bahamut Lagoon would be one of my favorite games if I could get a hold of it legally in english instead of just the import copy.  The guy who did the translations did a really good job in changing a few things around and getting the story across.  Really it was an amazing job.  Really brings you back to the classic RPG days of the SNES. 

As it has free roaming, and each unit has a companion dragon, that you can feed stuff to and transform it into a great number of different dragons depending on what you feed it and what stats raise. 



Kasz216 on 03 April 2008
Soriku said:
Erm...they look the same...so? How does that rule out Kasz's theory? =/ Unless Browning is Excellen's last name or...? What?

Yeah, it is her last name.

 

 



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Words Of Wisdom on 03 April 2008
Kasz216 said:

Ah, yeah i thought the game was pretty run of the mill too for a SRPG but I thought you disliked the PS1 Tactics Ogre too. Which I thought had a great story, once you got past the translations anyway.

Bahamut Lagoon would be one of my favorite games if I could get a hold of it legally in english instead of just the import copy. The guy who did the translations did a really good job in changing a few things around and getting the story across. Really it was an amazing job. Really brings you back to the classic RPG days of the SNES.

As it has free roaming, and each unit has a companion dragon, that you can feed stuff to and transform it into a great number of different dragons depending on what you feed it and what stats raise.


The only Ogre games I've played were the SNES Ogre Battle and the GBA Ogre Battle Tactics.  Haven't played the N64 game (didn't know there was a PSX game).

I'll definitely see if I can find BL anywhere... after I finish replaying OG2 anyway.  I really want to get the Vaisaga (I've missed it twice so far.  Got the Ashsaber once and forgot to get Lamia enough kills so I got the Angelg the second time).  ^_^ 



Kasz216 on 03 April 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kasz216 said:

Ah, yeah i thought the game was pretty run of the mill too for a SRPG but I thought you disliked the PS1 Tactics Ogre too. Which I thought had a great story, once you got past the translations anyway.

Bahamut Lagoon would be one of my favorite games if I could get a hold of it legally in english instead of just the import copy. The guy who did the translations did a really good job in changing a few things around and getting the story across. Really it was an amazing job. Really brings you back to the classic RPG days of the SNES.

As it has free roaming, and each unit has a companion dragon, that you can feed stuff to and transform it into a great number of different dragons depending on what you feed it and what stats raise.


The only Ogre games I've played were the SNES Ogre Battle and the GBA Ogre Battle Tactics. Haven't played the N64 game (didn't know there was a PSX game).

I'll definitely see if I can find BL anywhere... after I finish replaying OG2 anyway. I really want to get the Vaisaga (I've missed it twice so far. Got the Ashsaber once and forgot to get Lamia enough kills so I got the Angelg the second time). ^_^


Ah... the PSX one plays similar to the GBA one, except it's movement is based on speed. The PSX one is an SNES port that never came over here in english. It's got a pretty deep story. Square was so impressed with the game they bought out almost the entire tactics development team to make Final Fantasy Tactics.

I think there might be more differences but it's been a long while. 

The story is also a lot better. Involving some characters from the Snes Ogre Battle and involving cultural genocide, with branching paths that let you be... "evil". Not like REAL evil but more of a "The ends justify the means" guy rather then the pure evil I punch little kids just to watch them cry characters most games only let you bet.



Words Of Wisdom on 03 April 2008
Kasz216 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kasz216 said:

Ah, yeah i thought the game was pretty run of the mill too for a SRPG but I thought you disliked the PS1 Tactics Ogre too. Which I thought had a great story, once you got past the translations anyway.

Bahamut Lagoon would be one of my favorite games if I could get a hold of it legally in english instead of just the import copy. The guy who did the translations did a really good job in changing a few things around and getting the story across. Really it was an amazing job. Really brings you back to the classic RPG days of the SNES.

As it has free roaming, and each unit has a companion dragon, that you can feed stuff to and transform it into a great number of different dragons depending on what you feed it and what stats raise.


The only Ogre games I've played were the SNES Ogre Battle and the GBA Ogre Battle Tactics. Haven't played the N64 game (didn't know there was a PSX game).

I'll definitely see if I can find BL anywhere... after I finish replaying OG2 anyway. I really want to get the Vaisaga (I've missed it twice so far. Got the Ashsaber once and forgot to get Lamia enough kills so I got the Angelg the second time). ^_^


Ah... the PSX one plays similar to the GBA one, except it's movement is based on speed. The PSX one is an SNES port that never came over here in english. It's got a pretty deep story. Square was so impressed with the game they bought out almost the entire tactics development team to make Final Fantasy Tactics.

I think there might be more differences but it's been a long while.

The story is also a lot better. Involving some characters from the Snes Ogre Battle and involving cultural genocide, with branching paths that let you be... "evil". Not like REAL evil but more of a "The ends justify the means" guy rather then the pure evil I punch little kids just to watch them cry characters most games only let you bet.


Interesting.

As a side note, I hate Rapiecage.



Kasz216 on 03 April 2008
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kasz216 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:
Kasz216 said:

Ah, yeah i thought the game was pretty run of the mill too for a SRPG but I thought you disliked the PS1 Tactics Ogre too. Which I thought had a great story, once you got past the translations anyway.

Bahamut Lagoon would be one of my favorite games if I could get a hold of it legally in english instead of just the import copy. The guy who did the translations did a really good job in changing a few things around and getting the story across. Really it was an amazing job. Really brings you back to the classic RPG days of the SNES.

As it has free roaming, and each unit has a companion dragon, that you can feed stuff to and transform it into a great number of different dragons depending on what you feed it and what stats raise.


The only Ogre games I've played were the SNES Ogre Battle and the GBA Ogre Battle Tactics. Haven't played the N64 game (didn't know there was a PSX game).

I'll definitely see if I can find BL anywhere... after I finish replaying OG2 anyway. I really want to get the Vaisaga (I've missed it twice so far. Got the Ashsaber once and forgot to get Lamia enough kills so I got the Angelg the second time). ^_^


Ah... the PSX one plays similar to the GBA one, except it's movement is based on speed. The PSX one is an SNES port that never came over here in english. It's got a pretty deep story. Square was so impressed with the game they bought out almost the entire tactics development team to make Final Fantasy Tactics.

I think there might be more differences but it's been a long while.

The story is also a lot better. Involving some characters from the Snes Ogre Battle and involving cultural genocide, with branching paths that let you be... "evil". Not like REAL evil but more of a "The ends justify the means" guy rather then the pure evil I punch little kids just to watch them cry characters most games only let you bet.


Interesting.

As a side note, I hate Rapiecage.


 The one I always hated was the Einst Regissur and how, you fight one of them... then the next stage you've gotta fight like... 10.  Which aren't toned down any.



Words Of Wisdom on 03 April 2008
Kasz216 said:
Words Of Wisdom said:

Interesting.

As a side note, I hate Rapiecage.


 The one I always hated was the Einst Regissur and how, you fight one of them... then the next stage you've gotta fight like... 10.  Which aren't toned down any.


Yeah, but that's around the end of the game.  The Rapiecage just comes out and starts annihilating early.  The first time I did the mission where you meet Ouka in the Rapiecage I didn't take it seriously enough.  The fact that you only need to get it down to 70% health should have warned me that not only does it have good evasion and tough armor, but weapons that can and will crush you.

Nothing compared to "Episode 30" though.  The Galgau or whatever it's called appears and you finally have Sanger Zanvolt back to play with so I figured, I'll have Sanger attack him.  Prepare to be cleaved you fat, gold, and ugly enemy! Sanger attacks viciously and I was very pleased.  Then Galgau counter attacks with its most powerful move and OHKO's Sanger.

...

I think I went into shock for the following 20 seconds before reseting.