Funny how these comparisons NEVER include the annual fees you HAVE TO pay to play online. Gaming for 4 years on either console will cost you 200 dollars. I can easily spend those 200 dollars on games I actually want.

I think value is subjective but I just have to point out that the $90 you suggested above is an annual fee, so if you want online or those games after a year you need to pay again and again every year.

The other point is while I don't think 900p @ 30fps is terrible, I'd rather just play most things at 1080@60.

I think you pay more upfront with PC gaming, but it evens out with all the extra charges you have to pay with consoles over time.

You know you dont have to play online all the time, if you do it like me and only subscribe to PS+ when ever you want to play Multiplayer you can save a lot of money. And there all these cheaper deals from different countries.

Who says you have to buy remasters? you can buy the older versions for 3 bucks like the Uncharted games or Resident Evil 5 and 6 on PS3.

You only need to own the PS2, PS3 and 4 in order to play all PlayStation games, no emulation needed.

How is backlog an argument? I have a huge backlock of PS games whats your point?

How is upgrading your PC cheaper, this Xbox S alone has a 4K blueray player these things cost 400-500$ alone.

The new RX 480 graphicscard costs 300€, thats a graphicscard that cost as much a console and it was hyped to be the entry level card for 1080p 60fps.

Rumors say the PS4 Neo will have the same preformance and graphicscard and wont cost more than 400$ and €. PC gaming isnt affordable anymore espacially in europe

Also if someone doesn't want to pay the games they got from the last year are still playable. I do not understand that part. If you don't continue to pay for the services (on the xbox one, or playstation) you don't get to play the games that came from that service.

Yes, you would need to pay the $90 a year but getting 60+ games for that price is a great deal. Also if someone doesn't want to pay the games they got from the last year are still playable.

It's understandable that you would like to play at a higher resolution and better fps. 

On Xbox live you do.

By the time the AMD APU launches the xbox one will be cheaper than it is now.  Free Online is a plus for PC but the amount of games you get from paying $60 a year is overwhelming. The Xbox One and steam have many of the same games. Origin and EA Access are basically the same but EA Acess has more console exclusive games. U-Play is just Ubisoft games that are also on Xbox One. I'm not familiar with GOG so i cant comment on that. Microsoft are showing that the Xbox One S will have support for many more years and it will be cheaper in the Future to upgrade to a Scorpio when the next upgradable Scorpio comes out. 

That changed with xbox one. PS4 requires you to pay for online, and XB1 now locks all games behind the pay wall.

They basically copied each other.

It's you who are comparing a PC with the XboxOne S that won't launch until next year. I'm just using your comparison.

$60 will give you lots of games on PC too, you just have to take advantage of the sales that PC gamers enjoy several times each year (in the last 12 months Steam has had 4: Halloween, Winter, Chinesse new year and Summer. GOG has had almost the same).

Xbox One S will have many more years of support... just like the original XboxOne. Don't take PR statements as a fact or an absolute truth. And your "upgrade" to Scorpio consists of buying the new console at whatever it costs. With a PC, you'll only have to buy a graphics card.