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Are you ashamed of your Leave vote

yes 43 14.98%
 
no 124 43.21%
 
kinda 5 1.74%
 
didnt vote Leave 115 40.07%
 
Total:287
Scoobes said:
Slimebeast said:

No, you should be proud. And while some may see you as a joke, millions of others see you as heroes. And overnight we are already feeling the effects. A common agreement about (forced) distribution of migrants in the EU is very unlikely now.

Such a great day. So much respect to the independent and glorious nation that is the United Kingdom!

Except in all likelihood, the results of years of negotiations will end with us having to accept the free movement of people anyway, even though that was the primary reason a lot of people voted to leave. The remaining 27 EU leaders are going to want to shit all over the UK in negotiations to make the concept of any of them leaving to be a clear case of economic and social suicide. Sure Germany (and maybe France) will want to keep trade going, but the UK doesn't export anything you can't get elsewhere and we're not going to have as much buying power if the pounds stays low anyway.

I'm ashamed that the reason people voted to leave was because they feel left behind and blame the EU but don't realise that the reason they're so poor is because of domestic politics, not EU policy. When the EU money stops coming in and the poor get even poorer is going to be very interesting. Already we have regions that voted for Brexit asking that the UK Government to guarantee they'll keep receiving millions of pounds in EU funding. We have Brexit politicians admitting they lied during the campaign on the very morning of the result; the millions of pounds promised for the NHS was a complete lie; the promise to reduce immigration was another lie.

The areas that voted for heavily to leave are the same areas that have been ignored by British politicians but received the most in EU funding. This was a referendum of misleading lies and ignorance.

Of course the EU will make it hard for the UK in negotiations. As the corrupt and immoral organisation it is. To show the remaining member states that they aren't even f*cking allowed to leave. So much for democracy and freedom. Just piss on the people who disagree.

But I believe the UK will get good terms. Much better than the terms Cameron got for them before the election. The EU benefits from the UK as much as the UK benefits from the EU. And the UK is a very strong nation.

I'm sad that the Brexit campaign lied, but I'm sure the Remain campaign lied as well. Right now we have a ridiculous debate here in Sweden, or actually lack thereof - it's outright propaganda for the EU! A damage control campaign in mainstream media, even our state television, downplaying the importance of Brexit on our own EU-skeptic movement, and endless tirades about how bad everything will be for the UK now and warnings for Sweden if we were to leave. Hardly any EU-sceptics are allowed to comment. Only globalists and multiculturalists who all tell us how sad of a day this is. It's disgusting to see. Once more it shows how dishonest the pro-EU people are and how corrupt the establishment is.



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Slimebeast said:
Such a bullshit number made up by dishonest liars. The truth is that Britain will benefit on all fronts by leaving this corrupt and totalitarian institution, socially as well as economically.

Today was a fantastic day for Europe. Such a beautiful kick on Merkel's nuts.

this. its insane how hard the media (aka rich / corporations) are trying to paint this badly. I am doubtful of even the poll results to some level, if they are genuine its only due to such massive media brainwashing making the 'stay in the EU' vote come so close.

I also feel like a lot of people commenting (even in Europe) are unaware of some of the insane EU policies once you join. like a country's individual soverignty to make decisions is almost ENTIRELY gone

the UK in the EU doesn't even soley get to decide issues like whether or not to let loads of immigrants in or not. the pros of being in the EU are even fewer when you consider the likes of France, the UK, Sweden, etc.- have been putting tons of money forward to help the weaker members who have been going in debt. its just absurd.

the EU is a political mess too in terms of making decisions and getting things done. and it surely hasn't done much for the UK while they've been connected



mountaindewslave said:
Cobretti2 said:

I agree. we should be aiming for a world union in the long run, although that will never happen because of selfish agendas.

I commented because he made it sound like Britian was oppressed lol when instead our goal in the long term as a race should be to get alongand work together.

you all live in lalala lands. you can't just magically throw together a million different ideologies, religions, social preferences- into a mixing bowl and expect it to magically work perfectly and for everyone to coexist.

the whole point of borders and countries should be to enable people of similar beliefs and preferences to be able to live together and in their own territory with harmony.

you're not goint to throw a group of radical muslims (just saying) who believe women should shield their faces constantly into a town of 25 year hipster girls who believe in women empowerment and it magically work out

 

human beings are flawed to begin with. the best realistic goal I think you can have is that people spread out across the board somewhat fairly and evenly, based on belief and culture and that we live among our own communities peacefully.

anyone aiming for one world economy or a one world country that runs seamlessly is just being delusional. And I can't stress enough that the fewer seperated economies and nations in the world the more likely that the rich and corporations will gain even more power. you NEED competition and variety to allow different classes to emerge and change in a society.

as soon as you have one world economy or one giant country it becomes a bloated mess in which the top few % in power have nothing in their way to stop them from gaining more and more power. in an odd way I would argue that borders, regulations, tariffs- that they actually help stop the rich-poor gap from exponentially growing too quickly.

there's a reason that the media/rich have reacted so angrily about the UK breaking up from the EU- its a little block in their goals for further globalization and a one world economy.

 

and the reality is in the end if your suggestions are that the world should be unified as one- what does that really mean? our communities and countries often represent us in terms of culture, religion, morals- to some degree. I know I personally don't want my culture to suddenly mix with that of North Korea or China, I don't know about you. and I speak more on the matter of ethics and history than anything else. Someone in China would probably feel the same way, people grow up and either like where they are and their home or possibly move somewhere else. Which is perfectly fine. the concept that everyone should sort of join up and unify as a human race is sort of absurd because people are entirely different from one another.

everyone wants world peace but that doesn't magically mean that immigration should be forced across the board and it certainly doesn't mean that better off country's who have spent centuries getting where they are now should give that all up to float the bill for hordes of immigrants or big unified continental alliances

I'm rambling a bit but it is concerning how some seem to lack a grasp on the fact that humans do have very differing views on politics/morals/culture and that having some level of borderse and seperation can sometimes be a very positive thing.

its the exact reason you have walls around your house and don't openly share your yard with your next door neighbor

I'll just add that even if there existed a one world country there would still be several states and cities and houses, so borders will always exist. And the lulala land won't ever be feasible... but socialist want to believe in the impossible.



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Scoobes said:
Well, can't say we weren't warned but people were still stupid enough to believe the lies and vote to leave.

A lot of my friends are genuinely contemplating leaving the country (I'm talking born and bred Brits here, not disillusioned EU migrants that at least have somewhere to go back to). Personally I will have to wait and see what the effect will be when the dust settles.

Never been more ashamed to be British. We're the joke of the World at the moment and half the population don't even realize it.

are you serious?

do you have any idea how much EU policies were weakening the UK? do you think pulling in loads of immigrant workers into your country would help? what it does is lower the amount lower/ middle class workers are paid and takes away jobs. It also puts mega stress on the country because you have to provide social welfare to those let in.

also you can't possibly think being part of an organization that CONTROLS your country's decision making would be a positive thing? the UK hasn't even been capable of making large scale world decisions without the EU in decades.

sorry, but no, you've been steered by the media and seem to be under some sort of allusion that there is power in being part of the EU. newsflash: its a bloated mess of an organization with half of its members struggling to stay afloat and no organized central government; which is why it fails at making decisions reasonably quickly or efficiently.

the only ones that largescale country collaborations like the EU helps are big money and big corporations whom want access to cheap labor, cheap ways (without restrictions) to move money around, and fewer restrictions on moving good arounds worldwide. It doesn't help the little guys (which are the majority of us)



mountaindewslave said:
Cobretti2 said:

I agree. we should be aiming for a world union in the long run, although that will never happen because of selfish agendas.

I commented because he made it sound like Britian was oppressed lol when instead our goal in the long term as a race should be to get alongand work together.

you all live in lalala lands. you can't just magically throw together a million different ideologies, religions, social preferences- into a mixing bowl and expect it to magically work perfectly and for everyone to coexist.

the whole point of borders and countries should be to enable people of similar beliefs and preferences to be able to live together and in their own territory with harmony.

you're not goint to throw a group of radical muslims (just saying) who believe women should shield their faces constantly into a town of 25 year hipster girls who believe in women empowerment and it magically work out

 

human beings are flawed to begin with. the best realistic goal I think you can have is that people spread out across the board somewhat fairly and evenly, based on belief and culture and that we live among our own communities peacefully.

anyone aiming for one world economy or a one world country that runs seamlessly is just being delusional. And I can't stress enough that the fewer seperated economies and nations in the world the more likely that the rich and corporations will gain even more power. you NEED competition and variety to allow different classes to emerge and change in a society.

as soon as you have one world economy or one giant country it becomes a bloated mess in which the top few % in power have nothing in their way to stop them from gaining more and more power. in an odd way I would argue that borders, regulations, tariffs- that they actually help stop the rich-poor gap from exponentially growing too quickly.

there's a reason that the media/rich have reacted so angrily about the UK breaking up from the EU- its a little block in their goals for further globalization and a one world economy.

 

and the reality is in the end if your suggestions are that the world should be unified as one- what does that really mean? our communities and countries often represent us in terms of culture, religion, morals- to some degree. I know I personally don't want my culture to suddenly mix with that of North Korea or China, I don't know about you. and I speak more on the matter of ethics and history than anything else. Someone in China would probably feel the same way, people grow up and either like where they are and their home or possibly move somewhere else. Which is perfectly fine. the concept that everyone should sort of join up and unify as a human race is sort of absurd because people are entirely different from one another.

everyone wants world peace but that doesn't magically mean that immigration should be forced across the board and it certainly doesn't mean that better off country's who have spent centuries getting where they are now should give that all up to float the bill for hordes of immigrants or big unified continental alliances

I'm rambling a bit but it is concerning how some seem to lack a grasp on the fact that humans do have very differing views on politics/morals/culture and that having some level of borderse and seperation can sometimes be a very positive thing.

its the exact reason you have walls around your house and don't openly share your yard with your next door neighbor

Amen. The USW, "United States of the World", is so unrealistic that it's meaningless today to even have it as a goal in the distant future. It's wasted time to put any effort into working toward it as a goal. It's meaningless to think about. Our world today is so damn complex. And no serious politician is doing it, except for perhaps a few left-environmentalists here and there, so I've got nothing to complain here.

But the USE, United States of Europe, that's a problem. Secretly, the EU elite is definitely weighing in the future goal of creating the USE in their planning, policies and decisions. The problem is that the people of Europe aren't asking for this, they don't need it and they don't want it. Probably 90% of the population is against it. We are still too different as nations, societies and cultures. Now, what's dishonest is that there exists no debate about this, that there among European elite bureaucrats exists an unspoken common goal to unite us in a European state where the local governments are effectively dissolved, but nobody lets us know. Because people would be so upset. But if media would bring this topic up, there would be much more obstruction against EU legislation and co-operation, in the EU parliament for example.

So that's another aspect of Brexit. That by Britain leaving, it will - thankfully - take a bit longer before they dare to launch the campaign for USE.



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loy310 said:
For better or worse people want change.

This is why Trump has a chance to be president



DonFerrari said:
Cobretti2 said:

lol what tyranny? we live in a modern world. we should be working together as a human race for the better f the world not some magical invisible boundries redrawn every few hundred years.

Care to explain what better of the world you are talking about?

The kind of world where countrys (people like you) don't say "I got mine so fuck you"



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