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ferret1094 on 27 March 2008

Looks like I am only going to be doing the $20,000 jobs as my degree doesn't qualify me for anything better so it wasn't worth the time and money. In the UK they're trying to get 50% of young people to waste 3 years of their lives getting into huge debts at uni only to be in the same or worse position after graduation. It's a bloody con. They should recommend that we only go if we want to be a doctor, lawyer, architect, engineer, teacher, etc. In my county (sort of equivalent to state) the average HOUSEHOLD income is £18,000 and the average house price is £250,000. Guess I'm going to be living with my parents for a long time yet...



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Million on 27 March 2008

I think the UK goverment shouldn't force people into Uni for the sake of getting a degree , I think we should be encouraged to get qualifications for job opportunities that we believe will exist when we graduate.

Soon degrees won't be worth the paper they're printed on.




ferret1094 on 27 March 2008

I think that point has already come They all want professional qualifications and 1-2 years experience for supposedly entry-level positions!



Tavin on 27 March 2008
ferret1603 said:
I think that point has already come They all want professional qualifications and 1-2 years experience for supposedly entry-level positions!

 I hate that ... when they ask you for experience on an entry level position  .... how are you gonna get that experience if they don't give you the chance...

hope you can get a good job soon ... anyways ... it's never a waste of time to study ... the more you study the

more your chances, it sucks when no ones wants to give you the employment for wich you have study so hard, but

the chance will come ... just keep  trying !! :)  



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ferret1094 on 27 March 2008

Cheers Tavin. I've trawled the job sites again today and there's nothing new so I've sent off my CV to a local organisation that tries to help place people. Fingers crossed I'll at least get a temporary placement or something from that.



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Tavin on 27 March 2008
ferret1603 said:
Cheers Tavin. I've trawled the job sites again today and there's nothing new so I've sent off my CV to a local organisation that tries to help place people. Fingers crossed I'll at least get a temporary placement or something from that.

 I'll cross my fingers for that ... all of of them...



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rocketpig on 27 March 2008
ferret1603 said:
@Legend11 Sociology. Big mistake. I wanted to do something more vocational but people (teachers, careers advisors, etc) were telling me to do an academic degree to "keep my options open". If I'd done a vocational degree in marketing or graphic design or something I doubt I'd be having this problem as everywhere seems to want specialist degrees. Anyone who did something like history, English, sociology, politics, psychology, etc gets to fight over the scraps.

Go back and beat every one of those people into a bloody pulp. They fucked you hard.

Damn, sorry to hear that. A degree that teaches you how to do something is infinitely more valuable than a degree that teaches you knowledge. You can get knowledge on your own but it's a lot harder to learn how to do something by yourself.

It's a damned shame that most of the education system is full of people who know nothing except academia, yet they are the ones who are supposed to teach kids how to do something in the real world and make a productive life for themselves. It's almost criminal that your advisors told you to stick with an academic degree. Shame on them.




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skip on 27 March 2008
ferret1603 said:
highwaystar101 said:
No, you will earn stackloads, god knows I'm planning to when I leave uni. Just not right now. I think the phrase that fits this well is "it is better to climb a ladder from the bottom rung than get start off in the middle and get stuck" I know as soon as I leave uni I may not get a job in my field for 2-3 years, even then it would be a menial low grade job paying minimum wage, but I also know that in 10 years I will make something of that job and I will be rolling in money and I'm sure you're in the same boat as me. It is better than if I just left with my A-levels, got some job as a chemists assisstant or something and do that for the rest of my career. Uni is the starting block that allows you to climb the career ladder.

BTW, what are you studying and where?

Couldn't you have gone into that same minimum wage job and worked your way up without doing a degree?

Sociology. I put on my CV Plymouth as that's where I'm graduating from. I've been to three unis (Cambridge (hated it), Goldsmiths (got sick of the racial abuse I was receiving) and Plymouth) but obviously don't put that on application forms! Fortunately I could just transfer between the three so my degree's only taking me the three years it's supposed to.

I'm applying for everything I'm qualified to do so I don't think I'm over restricting myself either.

 Arts degrees are pretty much worthless  The only thing that they are good for are counting as your two years of preadmission study for programs such as phsycology, early childhood ed, law, general ed, buisness, nursing, etc

 



elgefe02 on 27 March 2008

I know people with excellent degrees failing at work, because they are not street smart or have common sense, the books will not make you a better manager, your own skills and experience will do.



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skip on 27 March 2008
Tavin said:
ferret1603 said:
I think that point has already come They all want professional qualifications and 1-2 years experience for supposedly entry-level positions!

I hate that ... when they ask you for experience on an entry level position .... how are you gonna get that experience if they don't give you the chance...

hope you can get a good job soon ... anyways ... it's never a waste of time to study ... the more you study the

more your chances, it sucks when no ones wants to give you the employment for wich you have study so hard, but

the chance will come ... just keep trying !! :)

 for people with associate (2 years), or bachelors (4 years) degrees generally you have to do a co-op, internship, or practicum to get that experience (none of which pay very well if at all).generally if you have a masters (6 years) degree you don't need the co-op, internship, etc (i don't include practicum because those are always required)