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jason1637 on 16 June 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPDeMkbh3Hs

Start at 1:11



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Baryonyx on 16 June 2016

I think when consoles becomes like phones is when we will see the end of gaming as we know it.



 

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Swordmasterman on 16 June 2016

I like the Generations the way they are, I don't want them to change.



killeryoshis on 16 June 2016

Sounds like they are turning the XBox into a Computer. You will probably have to upgrade every once in awhile. However unlike PC you will not replace parts of it but rather the whole thing. They seem to want to follow the phone strategy. That is where you replace your console after a few years. Makes sense since Smartphones are literally handheld computers. Microsoft is a PC company. So making their console more PC to fit the company makes sense.



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pokoko on 16 June 2016

It will be fine, as long as the box you buy stays forwards compatible for at least one new console (assuming the steps around around 5 years each). That would make it effectively equivalent to the "generations" structure.

This probably won't be a big deal.



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KLXVER on 16 June 2016

The Scorpio fails..."We at MS listened to the gamers and think its important to keep the console generations of the past"



KLXVER on 16 June 2016
Shadow1980 said:
Yeah. Good luck with that. Console generations aren't dictated by the companies, or by "innovation," or what have you. They don't even make new consoles simply because of "Hey, we got a lot better tech now so let's make a new system." They're dictated by sales, and it just so happened that the typical sales curve of a console gave us roughly 5 years between systems on average, which is plenty of time for a gamer to get a ton of use out of, build a solid library for, and generally get their money's worth out of their initial $200-400 investment. If MS tries to upset the apple cart by forcing a new paradigm (as opposed to having what amounts to one-off instance of offering a supercharged XBO to take advantage of 4K and VR), they can find themselves exiting the console market entirely. Maybe that's their plan. Who knows? But the console generation cycle exists for a good reason.

True. If Sony released a PS5 and MS released another version of the XB1 that was just as powerful as the PS5, it would still seem like an old system to gamers compared to the PS5.



Swordmasterman on 16 June 2016
Shadow1980 said:
Yeah. Good luck with that. Console generations aren't dictated by the companies, or by "innovation," or what have you. They don't even make new consoles simply because of "Hey, we got a lot better tech now so let's make a new system." They're dictated by sales, and it just so happened that the typical sales curve of a console gave us roughly 5 years between systems on average, which is plenty of time for a gamer to get a ton of use out of, build a solid library for, and generally get their money's worth out of their initial $200-400 investment. If MS tries to upset the apple cart by forcing a new paradigm (as opposed to having what amounts to one-off instance of offering a supercharged XBO to take advantage of 4K and VR), they can find themselves exiting the console market entirely. Maybe that's their plan. Who knows? But the console generation cycle exists for a good reason.

I don't know why all of a Sudden Console Generations are a bad thing, it seems that people want to get rid of them.



Ljink96 on 16 June 2016

I'm 100% on board with this. For future's sake, who wants a PS11? A traditional console should only be released once it has something really new to offer and most 3rd and 1st party developers who develop on Xbone don't need much more than increased specs. So why hype up another console with simply better specs when one can simply upgrade if need be? It's just a thought. I just don't see a future for traditional generations any longer. It would get too dry too fast. Ultimately, it's the games that generate excitement but I guest what the One S is doing is making a statement that you don't have to immediately upgrade if you don't want to. Keep your console for what, 10+ years as long as it's being supported much like a Windows OS.



baloofarsan on 17 June 2016

Some people think that going the "smartphone way" is going to make generations go away. Everything will share the same OS.
The latest iOS (9.3.2) is compatible back to iPhone4S. That is four and a half year. Apparently it has problems working with the oldest iPhone.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_9

The new iOS10 coming this fall will drop compatibility with iPhone 4S!