There is not much to redesign, Sony needs to simply add a dedicated GPU to the existing Neo APU and increase the case and cooling so that everything fits in.
Scorpio doing 4K, nope.
| Soundwave said: Then MS will just go back to their drawing board and bump their spec. I think MS has realized they cannot be effective with weaker hardware, they are more reliant on third party games than Sony is and that whole thing doesn't work if they have worse hardware. Even the 360 had better ports in a lot of key games than the PS3 because of a better hardware design. XBox obviously was better than the PS2. I don't think MS will allow themselves to be underpowered ever again. They made that mistake this gen, Scorpio is basically the "apology" for that they said it over and over again in the unveil video. |
The PS3 had a terrible design. You had to pay twice the price for a console that was running games worse than the 360. If the 360 didn't had the high failure rate, it would have destroyed the PS3.
The Xbox wasn't a good example since it was outsold almost 8:1.
My personal feeling is no.
All it would do is take MS back to the drawing board to make Scorpio even more powerful anyway.
It seems clear that MS has learned that they cannot have inferior hardware, and they're pretty much correct. If Sony is the defacto market leader, then MS' job is to offer something better, then cannot offer par or worse and think they will get anywhere in this market and I think XBOne was a bitter lesson in that for MS.
I don't think CPU is the issue but rather the GPU since I believe they said it had 6TF of GPU performance but correct me if I am wrong. Either ways, it depends on whether or not the devkits and etc are already out to the devs. If they are, it would be hard for Sony to change their hardware without losing a lot of money but if they havn't then they can still certainly try something out.
At its worst, they should price the ps4 Neo lower than the Scorpio and try to sell more that way. According to Eurogamer, if Sony were to change, they would have to change things drastically to have something similar provided all the specs of the ps4 Neo and Scorpio are legit.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-xbox-one-project-scorpio-spec-analysis
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They need to put a different CPU in the Neo because what they currently have in the rumored specs is a huge bottleneck
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| torok said: RAM is easy to increase. Replacing a CPU or GPU is a no-go close to release. If it is releasing in 2017, the biggest change they can do is to activate ROPs or other parts that they may have disabled to increase yelds or overclock it slightly. |
I disagree, it's not exactly close to release. 18 months is more than enough time to change the hardware, or going from when the supposed Neo specs were leaked 20 months. This isn't an entirely new console, this is a PlayStation 4 with much stronger hardware. It probably wasn't even given the greenlight till the end of 2014.
torok said:
The PS3 had a terrible design. You had to pay twice the price for a console that was running games worse than the 360. If the 360 didn't had the high failure rate, it would have destroyed the PS3. The Xbox wasn't a good example since it was outsold almost 8:1. |
XBox OG did what it was supposed to and that was get MS' foot in the door of the industry, it wouldn't have done that likely if it was weaker than the PS2 or just on par.
MS needs the extra horsepower, for Sony it's more of a nice to have, but not neccessarily a must have.
| CrazyGPU said: Sony was the one that was suppose to anounce a new Console, from PS4 1.84 Teraflops to 4.2. But what happened is that Microsoft anunce the awesome Scorpio with 6 Tf and 320 GB/s of bandwith. Now, what sony can do about that. Same as microsoft did with the One. Overclock it to close some of the gap. Discard de design and go for a more powerfull CPU? Anyway. If PS4 with 1.84 was just enough for full HD at 30 fps. And Scorpio will be 6 Tf for 4K (4 times full HD and 1.5 x 4 is 6.) So that means just what the One does for full HD, Scorpio will do for 4k at 30 fps. Neo will be significantly worse for 4k if it keeps 4.2 Teraflops, It only be able to run 2K AAA games and scalling or shit at 4k compared to native 30 fps 4k Scorpio. I wonder what sony will decide now. I love sony, but I guess Microsoft got serious and I respect that. Spencer is doing a great job. |
I expected MS to release the more powerful system the next time new hardware came out. They got burned way to badly by being the weaker system with the X1. My main problem is I don't like the way they are handling the software portion of the X1. To much reliance on their franchises that are guaranteed to sell and not enough taking chances like Sony is doing. I know the chances Sony has taken haven't really worked out (The Order) but sometimes it does (The Last of Us). I loved Gears of War and Halo but I got tired of those franchises I don't want to just keep playing them. On top of that with the way consoles are setup now switching to MS would make me lose my whole PS4 library pretty much.
Barkley said:
I disagree, it's not exactly close to release. 18 months is more than enough time to change the hardware, or going from when the supposed Neo specs were leaked 20 months. This isn't an entirely new console, this is a PlayStation 4 with much stronger hardware. It probably wasn't even given the greenlight till the end of 2014. |
So then what do you do when MS bumps their spec? If Sony can do it on such a short time span, the Scorpio which is about 18 months out could easily probably do the same.
Sony probably knows this too, I think they'll stick with the Neo as is, but we'll see.
I think MS has internally made the decision that they cannot have weaker hardware than Sony, and they're probably right.
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