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Goatseye said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Read that quote several times to yourself. Some games will have been in development far too long to have a Neo mode and will only run on the Neo in the same way they run on the PS4.

Just re-read the article and let me know where it says "Neo setting".

We've been posting rumor threads since NX ones came out, there were some outlandish threads out there and they were all fine because they were rumor threads. Instead of attacking the OP, you should've discussed the possibility and the veracity of this article.

It's common sense.  If a system can play "Ultra High" then it most likely can also play "Medium".



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GribbleGrunger said:
Goatseye said:

Just re-read the article and let me know where it says "Neo setting".

We've been posting rumor threads since NX ones came out, there were some outlandish threads out there and they were all fine because they were rumor threads. Instead of attacking the OP, you should've discussed the possibility and the veracity of this article.

So you can only understand what it means if it specifically uses 'Neo setting' and no other way of writing that can be understood. Get outa here lol.

It's not my article, I can't place my thoughts in there, that's why I opened a debate with my words in the bottom.



Livewire said:
CGI-Quality said:

Alright, everyone, stay on topic. Let's not make it about anyone specific.

bro, a user mentioned about this to the author and linked the Eurogamer article but he stands by his point.

The Game Informer writer is also just sharing his understanding of what Sony said. But many would normally disagree with him. He said to read a part on the Eurogamer article but he himself failed to read the entirety of the article itself(on Eurogamer). Even Eurogamer has a detailed rundown of what they think are the rules given to developers regarding NEO versions of their games. 

This is what that Gameinformer guy was referring to his tweet. "Forward compatibility patches are for old games only: Sony really wants Neo support on all games from October onwards. While older titles can have Neo features patched in, the platform holder will not allow new titles to add Neo features at a later date."

Which pretty much means developers cannot patch in performance improvements on games they are releasing in the future after NEO releases/or after October or something. Which means if they release the game without using the upgrades on the NEO then it will remain the same if you play it on a NEO.

"Neo-only or PS4-only games are not permitted (remember that Neo can still run unenhanced titles - developers are simply prohibited from locking out audiences of either console)."



Goatseye said:

He is saying that all games work on PS4 Neo but not all new games are required to use Neo Mode.  So you could have a situation were a game looks identical on either console.  This is obviously we he means.  What you are suggesting is logically unsound. 



Kowan said:
Livewire said:

bro, a user mentioned about this to the author and linked the Eurogamer article but he stands by his point.

The Game Informer writer is also just sharing his understanding of what Sony said. But many would normally disagree with him. He said to read a part on the Eurogamer article but he himself failed to read the entirety of the article itself(on Eurogamer).

the guy is adamant despite reading the entire article



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Wish people would use their common sense

There's no doubt that ALL ps4 games will run on it.



I still think outside of 1st party there will be a minority of developers who increase resolutions and textures for NEO and will be more to keep games running at the stable 30/60 fps without the dips of 5-10 fps losses.



Kowan said:
Livewire said:

bro, a user mentioned about this to the author and linked the Eurogamer article but he stands by his point.

The Game Informer writer is also just sharing his understanding of what Sony said. But many would normally disagree with him. He said to read a part on the Eurogamer article but he himself failed to read the entirety of the article itself(on Eurogamer). Even Eurogamer has a detailed rundown of what they think are the rules given to developers regarding NEO versions of their games. 

This is what that Gameinformer guy was referring to his tweet. "Forward compatibility patches are for old games only: Sony really wants Neo support on all games from October onwards. While older titles can have Neo features patched in, the platform holder will not allow new titles to add Neo features at a later date."

Which pretty much means developers cannot patch in performance improvements on games they are releasing in the future after NEO releases/or after October or something. Which means if they release the game without using the upgrades on the NEO then it will remain the same if you play it on a NEO.

"Neo-only or PS4-only games are not permitted (remember that Neo can still run unenhanced titles - developers are simply prohibited from locking out audiences of either console)."

The thing about this that doesn't make sense is that the author is conflating 'Running at all' with 'Neo Mode'  The guys says, all games will run on both models.  This is a fact.  But game informer is twisting forward compatibility patches for Neo mode to mean that if it isn't patched it wont run at all.  After all the new PS4 will have regular and Neo modes. 



Livewire said:
Kowan said:

The Game Informer writer is also just sharing his understanding of what Sony said. But many would normally disagree with him. He said to read a part on the Eurogamer article but he himself failed to read the entirety of the article itself(on Eurogamer).

the guy is adamant despite reading the entire article

Bryan King eh.... what a ridiculous name! 



I'll wait for official news; no these assumptions