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Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo: 3ds hits the 60m milestone worldwide (shipped)! 2DS price cut increases a lot 2ds sales!

Teeqoz said:
tak13 said:

The interesting thing is that in the same time frame. there were 680k gba units shipped down from 980k of last year! So 3ds reduced the  gap by 600k units... Still is fairly behind it  mosty due to the Americas but it's good to see the difference being rebated!

3DS shows way better legs than gba...Exciting!

Not surprising. How long had the DS been out for at this point in the GBA's life? The GBA got like a bit less than 4 years before it was replaced by the DS. The GBA will get at least 6 before it is replaced.

Of course that not's suprising, but I can't veil my slight fear of 3ds not having good legs, especially with that NX speculation ( which by comparison with gba would  mean that 3ds would  end up below the desirable and honorable milestone of 70m )  or rather the comensurate legs in order to approach gba as much as possible)  which by comparison with gba would  mean that 3ds would  end up below 70m!

Your point is valid and I take that detail into acoount, but remember we're talking about fat ds, ds became a hot thing after ds lite launch!

To be honest, my  jubilation lies in  my keen desire for 3ds to close as much as possbile the gap with gba ( since the relevant and indicative comparison for handheld console market is GBA VS 3DS not the unfair ds vs 3ds  ;) , and that will happen by having better legs than GBA... ;) So this extend of shrikange elates me ( I wish it to  continue ) and I'm sure it's the same with you, because you're an objective sony fan who wants all consoles to do well or as much as well they can! ;)

GBA sold another 6m till the end  of its life... (FY09 ) hence 3ds must have another three years of sales, if not more...It depends on what NX is.

So far NX hurting mostly wii u sales and that in  a great extend!



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Miyamotoo said:
Nuvendil said:

That's somewhat true but the reality is that they had numerous opportunities to improve the Wii U's fortunes after the 3DS was all set. 2014 was the biggest one.  Nintendo had everything that could go right go right for them:  the Big 3 of the 3rd parties all disappointed in their launch state (Titanfall, Watch Dogs, and Destiny) thus derailing a lot of hype trains, Mario Kart 8 was a great success and caused sales to surge and keep them ahead of Xbone for the entire summer, Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 both turned out to miss 2014 and land in later dates, and they had two Game of the Year contenders as exclusives in the last third of the year.  There was no excuse - NO excuse - for Nintendo to not maintain the number 2 spot in the console race and have a hugely successful holiday.  But they then went and did almost everything possible to completely screw it up.  Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 got only limited marketing and no bundles of any kind, limited or otherwise.  Smash didn't get a bundle, limited or otherwise.  Mario Kart 8 didn't even get a wide spread bundle for the holidays.  Their only widespread bundle was the Super Mario 3D World bundle - a game that was a year old, with all hype long dead.  The Wii U didn't get a price cut, didn't get a temporary price reduction, there weren't even any exceptional black friday deals.  And to top it all off, no system focused ads to play up the backlog.  Nintendo had a chance in 2014 to change the Wii U's course and right the ship and they completely and utterly failed.  

Hardly, Wii U after first year was already dead and nothing could save it, all 3rd party abandon Wii U after 1st year and then XB1/PS4 arrived on market so basically market totally forget Wii U. Wii U fate was already sealed in its first year.

What about dropping the tablet controller? You know, it adds 100 dollars to  the price and 80 to the manufacturing cost! For me, no matter what anyone says, main  problem of the wii u  will be always be the tablet controller... It makes wii u expensive, overpriced and costly to manufacture and add to that, Nintendo unable to slash its price!

Don't we all remember that xbox one was selling on par with wii u when it had the kinect...?

 



Ryng_Tolu said:
Teeqoz said:
I wonder what caused the sales to be up YoY. It's down in Japan and the US, so it'll have to be substantially up in Europe/RoW. Good numbers though, didn't expect it to be this high!

I think Nintendo overshipped for this quarter. Don't know why... but i think so, since i can't see EU numbers massive up YOY.

Probable, but I guess it's because they obviously undershipped it last quarter!  You know! ;)



Teeqoz said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

I think Nintendo overshipped for this quarter. Don't know why... but i think so, since i can't see EU numbers massive up YOY.

That's also a possibility. And that's annoying, because we'd have to wait til the end of next quarter to find out xD

Lol

Same feeling!

As for the Europe, yo-kai watch is performing very well ( excluding the UK :@ ), it has sold 26k copies as of May in Spain,  and it has a 2DS bundle...

Also, Fire eblem was released in May along with a New 3ds xl bundle... New 3ds xl is more popular in Europe  than it is in the USA, mainly because oddly is  cheape herer ! (  Although, that's an assumption based on the european amazon sites rankings -excluding the UK- )

Fire emblem gave a big boost to 3ds sales for two months in the USA.

 

Anywise, with the USA and Japan down, we can be certain that the boost is coming mostly  from Europe and it might be an impressive one!

The interesting thing  is if they still sell 2DS in Japan...



tak13 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

I think Nintendo overshipped for this quarter. Don't know why... but i think so, since i can't see EU numbers massive up YOY.

Probable, but I guess it's because they obviously undershipped it last quarter!  You know! ;)

Well yeah. They shipped 910k last quarter, but we know it sold 417,000 unit only in USA, and another 420,000 in Japan. No way it's under 100K in rest of world.



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RolStoppable said:
Nuvendil said:

That's somewhat true but the reality is that they had numerous opportunities to improve the Wii U's fortunes after the 3DS was all set. 2014 was the biggest one.  Nintendo had everything that could go right go right for them:  the Big 3 of the 3rd parties all disappointed in their launch state (Titanfall, Watch Dogs, and Destiny) thus derailing a lot of hype trains, Mario Kart 8 was a great success and caused sales to surge and keep them ahead of Xbone for the entire summer, Halo 5 and Uncharted 4 both turned out to miss 2014 and land in later dates, and they had two Game of the Year contenders as exclusives in the last third of the year.  There was no excuse - NO excuse - for Nintendo to not maintain the number 2 spot in the console race and have a hugely successful holiday.  But they then went and did almost everything possible to completely screw it up.  Hyrule Warriors and Bayonetta 2 got only limited marketing and no bundles of any kind, limited or otherwise.  Smash didn't get a bundle, limited or otherwise.  Mario Kart 8 didn't even get a wide spread bundle for the holidays.  Their only widespread bundle was the Super Mario 3D World bundle - a game that was a year old, with all hype long dead.  The Wii U didn't get a price cut, didn't get a temporary price reduction, there weren't even any exceptional black friday deals.  And to top it all off, no system focused ads to play up the backlog.  Nintendo had a chance in 2014 to change the Wii U's course and right the ship and they completely and utterly failed.  

There was no real chance to change the Wii U's course. When the 3DS did badly early on, its weekly sales were higher than the Wii U's during its good times, and that makes a significant difference when it comes to price cuts. When the price is cut, a company has to expect that the loss it takes in the short term will pay off eventually. The 3DS didn't make much money in its lifetime despite its hardware and software sales, so the result for a hypothetical Wii U price cut may very well have been negative. Consider the bad outlook for software releases for the Wii U in 2014, there wasn't any reason to believe that a lot of software would be sold to make up for the losses that would come with a hypothetical price cut.

Maintaining the number 2 spot in the console race was an impossibility because Microsoft could also slash the price of their hardware and, unlike Nintendo, they wouldn't have to go through prolonged software droughts. With the Wii U, Nintendo's choice came down to acting aggressive, selling more hardware and taking bigger losses on the whole endeavor versus acceptance of the failure and damage control.

You can argue that Nintendo should have made more and better bundles for the Wii U, but ultimately the Wii U could never be corrected like the 3DS. It also helped the 3DS that its only competitor was the pathetic Vita. Meanwhile, the Wii U's competition was and is a lot more fierce. Price cuts would have probably followed the path of the GameCube. It didn't pay off back then and it's very likely that Nintendo remembered that when they considered the options for the Wii U.

That's good after sometime, not since the beggining. Nintendo never tried with the Wii U. Since the launch they started delaying to pad the few developed games. In 2016 we are getting games announced since January 2013.

The library is dull, dissapointing, and any marketing effort has been bad since the launch. It's like they expected to flop even before releasing the console.

Iwata expected to turn the ship with a Nintendo Direct in January 2013, a remaster of The Wind Waker after a long drought and Super Mario 3D Land HD.



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Ryng_Tolu said:
tak13 said:

Probable, but I guess it's because they obviously undershipped it last quarter!  You know! ;)

Well yeah. They shipped 910k last quarter, but we know it sold 417,000 unit only in USA, and another 420,000 in Japan. No way it's under 100K in rest of world.

Exactly!

 

Apropos, italian bro,  isn't june  a better month for sales  than May in the USA and  a five week month?

Do you think that yokai watch and fire emblem along with their respective bundles  ( 2ds and New 3ds xl ) have pushed 3ds sales a lot in Europe?



tak13 said:
Ryng_Tolu said:

Well yeah. They shipped 910k last quarter, but we know it sold 417,000 unit only in USA, and another 420,000 in Japan. No way it's under 100K in rest of world.

Exactly!

 

Apropos, italian bro,  isn't june  a better month for sales  than May in the USA and  a five week month?

Do you think that yokai watch and fire emblem along with their respective bundles  ( 2ds and New 3ds xl ) have pushed 3ds sales a lot in Europe?

I believe it surely helped, there are months when 3DS Europe sales are better than USA sales... guess this is that time of the year, expecially with Yokay Watch and Firem Emblem.



Congratz Nintendo! This thing has outsold the SNES, N64, and Gamecube (and soon the NES) so although it's no DS, it has proven itself quite well in the presence of 99cent FTP smartphone games.



I'm hoping to see 3DS hit at least 70 million lifetime sales. It deserves 80m+ but Nintendo hasn't supported it that well for about a year or so. Can't wait for an unified handheld and home console. That is the only way they can prevent droughts for both their systems. They focused on the 3DS which led to Wii U droughts. Then they focused on Wii U which led to 3DS droughts. No more first party droughts please!