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hershel_layton on 06 June 2016
wartaal said:
theprof00 said:

lol I could care less about anything you have to say about me.

You've missed my point about a dozen times and I don't care to sit and hold your hand and explain life to you when it's clear that you being right is more important than actually discussing anything.

I agree you shouldn't give a shit, especially about things I wasn't saying. Like I said, you missed my point completely. I wasn't expressing that I am so great or smart because I have a lot of sex. I don't think I'm great at all. I'm saying I have a lot of experience, enough to know that there is a lot more to rape and "consent" than 'yes' 'no' and 'maybe'. And like I said previously, because I think I'm SoOoOoOoO great, I've been on the wrong end of some of those yesses before. But please, keep attacking me personally. That's always a surefire way to engage in civil discussion.

DO you even remember what my initial response was about? I was calling you out on a BS study that you used. 1 in 4 women were raped according to you. You ignored it completely.

http://time.com/3633903/campus-rape-1-in-5-sexual-assault-setting-record-straight/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-earp/1-in-4-women-how-the-late_b_8191448.html

It  also debunked your Isreal is behind all Islamic violence myth, which you have completely ignored.

Instead here you are talking about your sex life. You just ignore and go off topic. You have gone off topic in every single one of your posts, so much so we are now discussing your sex life. Yet here you are thinking you are explaining life to me. You're a riot dude.

israel isn't necessarily behind it. However, their extreme force that's shown in the IDF does not do anything to stop some nuts from Palestine to stab someone for no reason.

 

Both sides are wrong, and people who root for one side and think the other side is magically 100% incorrect are fooling themselves.



 

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wartaal on 06 June 2016

There are no sides. It was never about Israel/Palestine. It was about 1400 years of Islamic terror, which Israel cant possibly have anything to do with.



theprof00 on 06 June 2016
wartaal said:
theprof00 said:

lol I could care less about anything you have to say about me.

You've missed my point about a dozen times and I don't care to sit and hold your hand and explain life to you when it's clear that you being right is more important than actually discussing anything.

I agree you shouldn't give a shit, especially about things I wasn't saying. Like I said, you missed my point completely. I wasn't expressing that I am so great or smart because I have a lot of sex. I don't think I'm great at all. I'm saying I have a lot of experience, enough to know that there is a lot more to rape and "consent" than 'yes' 'no' and 'maybe'. And like I said previously, because I think I'm SoOoOoOoO great, I've been on the wrong end of some of those yesses before. But please, keep attacking me personally. That's always a surefire way to engage in civil discussion.

DO you even remember what my initial response was about? I was calling you out on a BS study that you used. 1 in 4 women were raped according to you. You ignored it completely.

http://time.com/3633903/campus-rape-1-in-5-sexual-assault-setting-record-straight/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-earp/1-in-4-women-how-the-late_b_8191448.html

It  also debunked your Isreal is behind all Islamic violence myth, which you have completely ignored.

Instead here you are talking about your sex life. You just ignore and go off topic. You have gone off topic in every single one of your posts, so much so we are now discussing your sex life. Yet here you are thinking you are explaining life to me. You're a riot dude.

If you are going to post a study countering a "college campus ONLY" study, then try to also be aware that there are actual national studies that report 27-33%
https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/nisvs/specialreports.html

You can read the full report if you'd like. The study you're referring to is a survey of how many women were under those particular circumstances SINCE enrolling in college and limited to that particular college experience.

Personally, I didn't even know about this "campus study". I'm not surprised someone is confusing an actual national statistic to a controversial one. I mean, it's not your fault you didn't know.

And again, like I said, a large demographic never gets reported. This is represented both in my personal life, and in the study.

And as far as the israel thing. We have been messing around in the middle east for way too long. Israel is part of it. Why do you think we are the target of terrorists? Because we're powerful? Russia tried to invade them! We've been firing missiles into the middle east every day for the last 30 years. They all know, this is an oil play, and it has been since day 1. Israel was installed to give the western world a foothold in the region.

You think America gives a crap about "terrorism" and violence? What are we doing about Africa? What about Southeast Asia? South America? I'm not going to get off topic. It's over, you believe what you believe and Ill believe what I believe. Simple. Done.



wartaal on 06 June 2016

Completely useless study. And i wasnt confused by anything, you havent showed this study until a few minutes ago.
Your crazy study actually defines lying about your income to have sex, as sexual assault. Nice study bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsJ1DhqQ-s Here is your study ripped to shreds.

1400 years of Islamic terror minus 70 years of Isreal still leaves you with 1330 years left of explaining to do. GL with that.



theprof00 on 06 June 2016
wartaal said:
Completely useless study. And i wasnt confused by anything, you havent showed this study until a few minutes ago.
Your crazy study actually defines lying about your income to have sex, as sexual assault. Nice study bro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNsJ1DhqQ-s Here is your study ripped to shreds.

1400 years of Islamic terror minus 70 years of Isreal still leaves you with 1330 years left of explaining to do. GL with that.

like I said, waste of time talking to you.

 



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torok on 06 June 2016
JWeinCom said:

Women earn significantly less than men and are often perceived as less capable despite being otherwise qualified. Studies have shown biases towards labeling women as "chatty", "talkative", or "gossipy" even in cases where they have not been.

A skinny bodytype is definitely preferred. People underweight on BMI are perceived as healthier and more attractive than those within the normal range. Magazines photoshop already thing people to make them abnormally thin, then promise advice on how to reach these unattainable goals

The average pay is biased because men are more numerous in professions from the STEMM areas while womans are the majority in professions in the humans sector. The difference in salaries is related to the job choice. Studies comparing pays for men and women in the same profession show a much more equalitary pay grade. I myself never had a situation in any company where a women was being paid less than a men in an equal position. Also keep in  mind  that women sometimes pause their careers for one or two years to have kids and that results in an impact in their payment when they return.

We should start to study why women aren't chosing the STEMM areas as much as men, to determine if it is a social imposition or if they simply prefer more other areas. The current studies basically say that an engineer get more cash than an historian and that won't change. We need to attack the issue from the correct point of view.

About fat people, I'm a bit overweight and I don't think skinny people are perceived as healthier. They ARE healthier (unless they are anorexic). I can say that people who smoke are less healthy, why can't I say the same about obese people? We already have a lot of criticism towards excessive skinny people, but I don't want people to start saying that being fat is a normal and healthy choice when it isn't. A 300 pounds guy is as sick as an anorexic person.



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maxleresistant on 06 June 2016

You live in a context. That's as simple as that.

It's all about contextualization, you just can't ignore the reasons we got where we are. Now I agree that there is some stuffs we need get past, but it takes time.



JWeinCom on 06 June 2016
torok said:
JWeinCom said:

Women earn significantly less than men and are often perceived as less capable despite being otherwise qualified. Studies have shown biases towards labeling women as "chatty", "talkative", or "gossipy" even in cases where they have not been.

A skinny bodytype is definitely preferred. People underweight on BMI are perceived as healthier and more attractive than those within the normal range. Magazines photoshop already thing people to make them abnormally thin, then promise advice on how to reach these unattainable goals

The average pay is biased because men are more numerous in professions from the STEMM areas while womans are the majority in professions in the humans sector. The difference in salaries is related to the job choice. Studies comparing pays for men and women in the same profession show a much more equalitary pay grade. I myself never had a situation in any company where a women was being paid less than a men in an equal position. Also keep in  mind  that women sometimes pause their careers for one or two years to have kids and that results in an impact in their payment when they return.

We should start to study why women aren't chosing the STEMM areas as much as men, to determine if it is a social imposition or if they simply prefer more other areas. The current studies basically say that an engineer get more cash than an historian and that won't change. We need to attack the issue from the correct point of view.

About fat people, I'm a bit overweight and I don't think skinny people are perceived as healthier. They ARE healthier (unless they are anorexic). I can say that people who smoke are less healthy, why can't I say the same about obese people? We already have a lot of criticism towards excessive skinny people, but I don't want people to start saying that being fat is a normal and healthy choice when it isn't. A 300 pounds guy is as sick as an anorexic person.

We've talked about this ad naseum.  Just look back through the posts for my responses.



DonFerrari on 06 June 2016
theprof00 said:
wartaal said:

Just saying it isnt debunked is not an argument. Even the ones who made that study says it's been used out of context.

So a girl who is intoxicated while having consentual sex is seriously fucked up? How? Why? Its called regret it has nothing to do with anything. ANd what has child molestation to do with anything. Its a giant strawmen.

It's called doing things before you're ready to, because your judgement is impaired. One specific girl had sex when she was 14 the first time, and was so drunk she got passed around several guys.

Yes, it is called regret. I understand where you're coming from, but what I'm saying, as a guy who has been with a lot of women,just because it's "ok" doesn't mean she wanted it.

I've had girls tell me later that they didn't actually want to have sex sometimes but that they allowed it because they thought they would lose me. I've had two say that. It's actually more common than you'd think. Not everyone has a great sex drive. Some girls don't get any pleasure. Some can enjoy literally laying there not being touched. Seriously, I've known a girl who could just squeeze her thighs and get off without any kind of stimulation. It might seem like I'm getting off track, but I'm illustrating the broad range of how people function. I've always been upset when a girl isn't into it. A lot of girls, and I really mean a whole heck of a lot, think that they NEED to have sex in order to keep someone. Even if they don't want it.

I don't know what else to tell you. I know you disagree and you're entitled to that. I just want to make my point that rape isn't really a joke to most girls. And for a guy to be "raped" by like "a hot teacher" which does happen, some men would find that silly. Like "oh I'm sure he said no". Humans are more complicated than you're making it seem.

Sorry men, a lot of people do things under pression and it's their option.

Now... about being forced to do sex while engaged/married... guess what, you are together for everything, so if you don't want to have sex with that person anymore and don't want to be forced, ask to get out of the relationship. If you think it's their right not to be forced to have sex with their partner, is also their partner right to have sex with the partner... so either one stop pretending and calls quits or stops complaining about being forced... no where in between is good.



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hershel_layton on 06 June 2016
wartaal said:
There are no sides. It was never about Israel/Palestine. It was about 1400 years of Islamic terror, which Israel cant possibly have anything to do with.

Uhh...actually, it starts around 60 years ago when Britian decided to place the Jews randomly into the territory of Palestine. Then it went downhill with both sides doing batshit things/



 

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