hershel_layton said:
theprof00 said:
So, what I get from the thread is when you pick on a minority for something that isn't in there control, it's bad.
And when you pick on a majority, whose physical traits are deemed desirable by society, it's ok.
As in, it's bad to call a fat person ugly, and acceptable to call a skinny person ugly.
So like, people would have a problem if I called rosie odonnell ugly, but if I call Ariana Grande ugly, that's ok.
If someone were to call me ugly, I would laugh, because I would assume they are making a joke using sarcasm.
But if someone were to call my friend ugly, I would assume they were voicing their opinion because my friend doesn't have traits that are considered desirable by the majority of society.
Kinda like if you were to call me a cracker, and call my friend something else. Hmm, I don't think I actually get this thread.
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Not picking on people. Said this countless times, I don't care for the jokes(I put bad examples). It's when we reach serious issues do we then see double standards having an effect.
For example, rape. Rape is a serious issue no matter the gender. However, it seems that people only care when a woman is raped. When a man's raped, it is turned into something to laugh about, with many people saying he deserved it.
Also, religious extremism. I never understood why I'm considered Islamophobic when i recommend a reformation for Islam(similar to the one for Christianity). I mean, why Islam in particular? It's not like criticizing it means I suddenly hate all Muslims and want them to die.
Additionally, never said fat people are ugly. I mentioned preferences. Some like tall, short, black, white, skinny, thick, and the list goes on. It'd be disappointing if you'd be considered a fat shamer because that isn't your preference.
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For instance, on the rape subject, I think the problem is that women get raped far more often than men do. It's something like 1 in 4 women. And like, yeah all rape isn't violent rape, but a lot of times it's women who didn't want to do something and a guy forced them. I have a lot of female friends and they've told me what happened to them and yeah, it happens.
A guy getting raped by a girl is a "joke" because predominantly, men are supposed to be powerful, and girls are supposed to be the "sex allowers". That's the society understanding. You have sex if the woman allows you to, and men are constantly chasing women to be "allowed". When the roles are reversed, it comes off as a joke because the common thinking is that you have to chase the girl, and most men understand how difficult the chase is, so it's funny to them when it's not only easy, but forced on them. You'll see the same thing about a guy who has a lot of sex. Guys will joke about it. If a guy is raped by another guy though, that's a different story, and generally not something people find funny except for douchebags.
It's like how people find irony in James A. Garfield's appointment to president, or George Washington's. Neither person wanted to be president but were somehow forced to become exactly that. Garfield was a friend of a president while JG was serving in the army. The president asked him to step down and join congress because he needed people he could trust for voting measures. He was put on the ballot 9 years later by anonymous members and he said "I didn't give any permission for anyone to put my name down". There were already 3 candidates running but the ballot was deadlocked. Somehow he was growing in votes everyday, and 5 months later was elected president.
If this were a situation more closely resembling daily life of citizens, you could see how it would be funny.
Maybe you don't know, but women are raped and beaten a lot. People don't talk about it. Women don't report it. I know at least 3 girls who have both been raped, punched or kicked, and never pressed charges or reported it to police. Yes, you should be more careful talking about it.
And about religion. Hey, I'm in the same boat. You can either say it or not, but make sure what you're saying makes sense. For instance. I hate Israel. Not the people. I hate the country. It should not exist. It was created after ww2 for the purpose of giving the Jews a home after their persecution by germany. The land belonged to Palestine. It was not the Jews land. It should have never happened. Most of the terrorism problems we see today are because we put Israel on the map. It's completely unfair. IMO, we should dissolve Israel, give it back to Palestine and make amends and pay reparations.
But I'm not about to go on facebook and put that on my wall.
Do you see what I'm saying?
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