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Intrinsic said:

 What happened to the Horror genre?

Nothing. Spirit Camera, Fatal Frame V, Her Story, Corpse Party, Kara no Shojo 2.

 

Can people here stop whining about PT? It was trash from the start. Glad to see Konami cancelled it.



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Boberkun said:

Nothing. Spirit Camera, Fatal Frame V, Her Story, Corpse Party, Kara no Shojo 2.

 

Can people here stop whining about PT? It was trash from the start. Glad to see Konami cancelled it.

Credibility is so easily lost.



 

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RE4 is what happened ...

Nevermind setting it's own series down the path we see it now, it became the final nail in the coffin for AAA horror games ...

When Silent Hill or Fatal Frame was declining, nearly everybody looked to Resident Evil as an example for high quality AAA horror games at the time but RE4 came around and it immediately became a macho third person shooter. RE4 didn't attract fans of the horror genre, it attracted third person shooting action junkies ...

RE4 set to divide it's own fanbase because of the success it garnered for Capcom. Pure horror games couldn't compete anymore when they were out bested by an imposter ...

The subsequent self proclaimed AAA horror games by the developers were at a loss for what to do when RE4 redefined what horror games were for the worse ...



This threads shows what happened: the audience is super divisive, too picky about everything and nothing is good enough or like the original horror game.

"Slender is not scary, there are just jump scares, blah..."
"Evil within is too action, not really what i really fell in love with on the origianl resident evil..."
"Outlast is notsurvival horror, you can't do anything, just run"

Its ok, you can do whatever you want with your money, but you can't blame companies for not investing on it. Even if those games sell enough to sustain the developer, i don't think that team make those games would be happy with being target of so many nipticking.



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Horror games in general became better after RE4 imo.



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The problem with horror games is the lack of mainstream popularity. Resident Evil has always been popular but that's the exception. I think Resident Evil came around at the right time and it stuck. The horror genre is kind of a niche genre which is why we don't see many horror games that aren't crappy Steam Greenlight games. A really successful Resident Evil game might sell about 5 million copies, which is far short of what games like Call of Duty and GTA sell. So if Resident Evil sells 5 million copies, then something like Silent Hill will be lucky to reach 2 million and Fatal Frame will be lucky to reach half a million. In the PS2 era, these sales were sustainable. They aren't anymore. Games cost too much to make and these kinds of sales don't justify the need for more horror games.

If you notice, development costs has led to less games in particular genres being made. During the PS2 era, we had our share of GTA clones. We don't anymore because those clones never sold as much as GTA and the budget to make those games in today's market outweigh the sales those games would be bringing in. The same thing happened to the horror genre. On 5th and 6th ben consoles, there were all sorts of horror games. There aren't anymore and we're going to have to accept that.



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KLXVER said:
Horror games in general became better after RE4 imo.

We are complete opposites.



Devs seemed to have forgotten how to make good horror games, or they're doing western style horror, which is different from the good horror games of the past; more thriller based, an emphasis on bloody and gory deaths, and jump scares. There's also having weapons to fight back the threat sometimes as well.

Different from those older games, and not my type of horror.

Horror games still do exist though, especially from the indie community, and some of them are pretty good, haha.



 

              

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Cloudman said:
Devs seemed to have forgotten how to make good horror games, or they're doing western style horror, which is different from the good horror games of the past; more thriller based, an emphasis on bloody and gory deaths, and jump scares. There's also having weapons to fight back the threat sometimes as well.

Different from those older games, and not my type of horror.

Horror games still do exist though, especially from the indie community, and some of them are pretty good, haha.

its beginning to sound like horror games just got westernized. Now that i think of it, even japanaese horror movies moatly convey more dread than what we get in the west.

Maybe them japs are just very twisted people when it comes to horror. I mean the last time i watched a horror movie that left an impression on me and had me feeling weird for days was after watching the ring  



Intrinsic said:
Cloudman said:
Devs seemed to have forgotten how to make good horror games, or they're doing western style horror, which is different from the good horror games of the past; more thriller based, an emphasis on bloody and gory deaths, and jump scares. There's also having weapons to fight back the threat sometimes as well.

Different from those older games, and not my type of horror.

Horror games still do exist though, especially from the indie community, and some of them are pretty good, haha.

its beginning to sound like horror games just got westernized. Now that i think of it, even japanaese horror movies moatly convey more dread than what we get in the west.

Maybe them japs are just very twisted people when it comes to horror. I mean the last time i watched a horror movie that left an impression on me and had me feeling weird for days was after watching the ring  

I think it's just how Japanese, or even the rest of the world, do horror. They're more about being subtle and making the viewer just feel uneasy. I think they're just slower paced as well, kind of like solving a mystery, and focus more on the supernatural rather than a real person. A person or thing can be stopped eventually. Things like spirits cannot and sometimes is something that can happen to other people, so that leaves some dread to the viewer. That's how I see it at least.



 

              

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