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craighopkins on 28 May 2016
Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

This is wrong and has been shown to be wrong several times. 

The Polaris 10 is a 32 CU part that is a mid-budget GPU for $299.99 retail this year. It clocks in at 5.5 TFLOP. This is actually cheaper than the 7870 GPU that the PS4 is based on was in 2012 when it released a year ahead of the PS4/XB1. 

Give it a minor bump to 36 CUs and you get 6 TFLOPS.

There's no reason for a console with a Polaris 10 GPU to cost $800 or even close. Try half that. 

6 TFLOPS is nothing amazing. PS4 @ 1.8 TFLOPS is old as shit now, people need to realize that, by fall 2017 that'll be 4 four years old. 

If you think it will be affordable, more power to you. But sitting at $300 on just the GPU when that's the cost of a PS4... Microsoft must be aiming for premium users. Which would be weird, because those already exist. 

 

They're called PC gamers. 

Azuren. MS and sony do not pay the same prices we do. I think you are not taking that into consideration.



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Soundwave on 28 May 2016
craighopkins said:
Azuren said:

If you think it will be affordable, more power to you. But sitting at $300 on just the GPU when that's the cost of a PS4... Microsoft must be aiming for premium users. Which would be weird, because those already exist. 

 

They're called PC gamers. 

Azuren. MS and sony do not pay the same prices we do. I think you are not taking that into consideration.

Like no ... shit, lol?

Anyone who actually thought that way is on planet Mars. 

You'll get a better deal on anything if you order a million+ of anything (life lesson 1039393).



Azuren on 28 May 2016
Soundwave said:
craighopkins said:

Azuren. MS and sony do not pay the same prices we do. I think you are not taking that into consideration.

Like no ... shit, lol?

Anyone who actually thought that way is on planet Mars. 

Optimzation, Soundwave. I mean, seriously. Optimzation is a huge deal. And it is highly dependent on the architecture of what you're running. Not just anything will work.

 

But this is the last time I'll be replying to you, or to anyone who brings the topic of you up to me (Sorry, Craig). It's clear that you don't want to consider any reason that Microsoft might not be able to make a 6tf XB1 and that you just want a rumor to be fact. Good luck with that affordable 6tf XB1.2.

 

You'll need it.



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Soundwave on 28 May 2016
Azuren said:
Soundwave said:

Like no ... shit, lol?

Anyone who actually thought that way is on planet Mars. 

Optimzation, Soundwave. I mean, seriously. Optimzation is a huge deal. And it is highly dependent on the architecture of what you're running. Not just anything will work.

 

But this is the last time I'll be replying to you, or to anyone who brings the topic of you up to me (Sorry, Craig). It's clear that you don't want to consider any reason that Microsoft might not be able to make a 6tf XB1 and that you just want a rumor to be fact. Good luck with that affordable 6tf XB1.2.

 

You'll need it.

Optimization is up to the software designers, software designers already work with 6 TFLOP GPUs on the PC side. 

I think you're confusing several things here. 

MS is going to use something likely based on the Polaris tech, because for 2017 that simply makes sense, they're not going to use something on an older 28nm node for one. 

I don't think you really know what you're talking about at all here to be honest and you're letting your fanboyism really cloud the discussion here. 

Also if anyone is doing a half-iterative leap here, it's Sony, not MS. Phil Spencer even said straight up he's not interested in the approach the PS4 Neo is taking he wants to do something more substantial than that. 

And quite frankly I think he's right, I think Sony is the one rushing a "1.2" revision here, what MS is doing is making a more legit XBox 2. 

 

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