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MikeG85 said:
I've had windows phone for the last 4 years , and I wont be leaving any time soon.

You guys should really get your facts straight before you start splurting nonsense...

Windows mobile isn't going anywhere , they have to have it for universal apps to make sense.

Universal Apps makes sense with or without Windows Phone, it's there for Xbox, HoloLens and whatever future product that can make use of those Apps.


Also if you read the memo, it stated that they're are going to going after the business sector where they have had moderate success.

So essentially retrenching on the consumer market, focusing on the business market.

So, Windows mobile isn't going anywhere, it's just leaving the largest demographic behind. They don't even dominate the business market. But it's not going anywhere, guys!

Get the software where it needs to be over the next 12-18 months and then come out with (probably) the Surface phone..bare in mind any hardware which panos panay has overseen has pretty much been gold for them.

Disappear for another 12-18 months, catch up to the competition, and come back with a compelling product. So you bacsically agree, MS in the mobile space is just chasing the others. You also omit the fact that competition isn't standing still, they will dish out golden products and features too, copy whatever they feel like copying and stay ahead. Just like MS has done with Windows for the past decade or so.

Also Microsoft is now just concentrating on premium phones (hardware) and then hopefully let other OEMs fill in the gaps.essentially the exact same plan they had with Surface.Remember when Tim Cook said having a tablet with a keyboard was like trying to mix a fridge and a toaster (something like that anyway)....well look at their lasted ipad now.

This isn't Microsoft pulling out of the mobile business, its a streamlining .

Their hardware output has been getting increasingly anemic for a while now, how much more streamlining can you do? Not to mention, the premium smartphone bubble will burst, even Apple is taking measures and preparing for a future in which premium phones will not offer enough to differentiate them from the cheaper options... and Your expecting a premium Surface phone coming in 2 years to be the savior?

A change of plans as things obviously haven't worked out great for them.

 

I have no doubt that MS will not stop updating their WM platform, don't expect much though. Just enough ventilators to keep the aritificial breathing from stopping. 

You shouldn't condescend to others when you largely share the same opinion on the matter right now. We are just not as optimistic as you are about the future



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foodfather said:
Shame. Anyone who has actually used a windows phone knows that they are the best the use. Even the Surface, hands down the best device of its class.

Its just that the market place/ app support is so awful I can not justify owning one.

I have a Windows Phone and I have used it enough to say it's definitely not the best. Even if you like the UI more than iOS or Android's, how long until it gets old? Most smartphones users spend their time inside apps, not looking at menus and tiles and go "oh, super cool!"



Slimebeast said:
kowenicki said:
Yes!

Stock will climb. Sony next please.

Will you say that when they leave the console business too?

"Yes, deleting Xbox was best for the stock"

The comparison is flawed anyway. Android doesn't need SONY to stay afloat, Windows Mobile on the other hand...



When some people will learn? DRAT! Microsoft bought Nokia's phone division not the whole Nokia! Nokia sold this division to recover from the damage it had done to it, and they have manage it in a considerable extent, to the extent that they are returing to smartphone business...

I wonder if it's coincidental, that the trouble ( steep drop in sales ) for Microsoft, started when they phased out Nokia brand from lumia...

Windows phone's strong territory , were Europe ( it was even surpassing ios quarterly, in many European markets ) and India... Like Nokia's, even when they weren't the leader as they once. were.



Captain_Yuri said:
Kerotan said:

Imo they are just terrible compared to Android.  

 

This investment was a bad idea for Microsoft.  Another example of them being reactive to the market rather than pro active. 

They are terrible compared to Android and iOS... Which are the only two platforms out there which aren't basically dead or dying... When the platform is lacking an official youtube app, they have done goofed...

But yea, it was a mess. RIP

they had an official YouTube app, but google took it down because Windows phone allows you to save videos to your phone, and Microsoft would not budge on that feature.



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kowenicki said:
Slimebeast said:

Will you say that when they leave the console business too?

"Yes, deleting Xbox was best for the stock"

Apples and oranges. You should already know that if you had a clue about MS as a business. But like most here, you don't, so I can cut you some slack.

What do you mean apples and oranges?

What if Xbox turns out to be not very profitable for MS, and they decide to leave the console business (which many shareholders already demand).

Will you cheer then because the stock goes up?



kowenicki said:
LurkerJ said:

The comparison is flawed anyway. Android doesn't need SONY to stay afloat, Windows Mobile on the other hand...

What on earth are you talking about? This is nothing to do with Android. Sony need to stop making phones because its a waste of time and money, they are almost irrelevant now in the the Android space. Correction... they are irrelevant. I wasn't making any comparisons, particularly not in regard to mobile OS for which i care not one bit, merely urging Sony to do the same for their own benefit.

I actually was referring to his comparison. Consoles vs Mobile.

MS can push its services to mobile users without the need for Windows Mobile. They need the Xbox for now to push their services in the living room, isn't the Xbox doing better than the half-assed streaming boxes such Roku and Apple TV? Maybe in the future we'll get better products that MS can utilize to their advantage.