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Forums - Sales - UK Chart Week Ending 14 May 2016 (Uncharted 4: 190K)

barneystinson69 on 19 May 2016
Kerotan said:
barneystinson69 said:

There's a different. Forza had a limited edition bundle that hardly was considered a "main bundle". Your point makes no sense as the comparison isn't fair

In the UK,  forza is commonly bundled in stores hence why it's charting high.  it's very relevant.  And past forza games on 360 had mass bundling in the US. You can't deny that. 

You can't base one market on the reason a game sells well. The game isn't bundled anymore in NA, and hasn't been since september. The uncharted bundle was the main PS4 bundle for the holiday season. No one is saying the uncharted remaster sold well, but people should at least admit were those sales are coming from.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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Kerotan on 19 May 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Kerotan said:

In the UK,  forza is commonly bundled in stores hence why it's charting high.  it's very relevant.  And past forza games on 360 had mass bundling in the US. You can't deny that. 

You can't base one market on the reason a game sells well. The game isn't bundled anymore in NA, and hasn't been since september. The uncharted bundle was the main PS4 bundle for the holiday season. No one is saying the uncharted remaster sold well, but people should at least admit were those sales are coming from.

Lol we are in the UK sales thread.  Of course I can say it's the reason it's charting in here.  

 

And as for some older forzas they received massive bundling in the USA.  that inflated sales in the US and as a result globally big time. That's a fact. 



Azzanation on 19 May 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Intrinsic said:

you kidding me? so that is what you mean by come out yearly? throw in eveey spin off title and remaster like its a mainline title. By that logic we can say Final fantasy comes out on average 2 times every year going all the way back to 2007

Final Fantasy have over 90 Tittles in 28-30 Years of Franchise so is a little more than 3 Tittles per year.

And Halo makes just as much money as FF on one platform so whats your point?

Intrinsic said:
Swordmasterman said:

Final Fantasy have over 90 Tittles in 28-30 Years of Franchise so is a little more than 3 Tittles per year.

Exactly. And he doesnt even seem to understand that the reason Halo or rather so many games were made thay tied ro the Halo name was because MS jusy didnt have a lot of high profule IPs so they milked out what they did have as nuch as possible.

I mean just look at this year, by E3 this year ms would have released less than 3/4 exclusives for the whole of the year. And im even adding console exclusives to that list. 

3 out of those 11 Halo games mentioned are spinoffs but lets not denie Reach is a cheap spinoff or Halo Wars or MCC. I proved your point wrong because you question me that Halo doesnt come out yearly and i proved to you it does. 

 

Now your just trying to move goal posts and use spin offs as a reason it doesnt count lol



Azzanation on 19 May 2016
Swordmasterman said:
Azzanation said:

Define Bigger? Because if you Wiki Halo and Uncharted you will find Halo as a franchise is in another league to Uncharted when it comes to a bigger franchise.

*The games have sold over 65 million copies worldwide, with the games alone grossing almost $3.4 billion*

*Strong sales of the games led to the franchise's expansion to other media; there are multiple best-selling novels, graphic novels, and other licensed products.*

Thats not including Halo 5 sales and its gross income.

Now if you Wiki Uncharted you will barely find anything there. This isnt me trying to one up Halo and down grade Uncharted, but to say you dont know which one is a bigger IP is strange. You might aswell say God of War is a bigger IP to Minecraft.

How is Halo in the decline? Because Halo 5 sold 4m copies? Halo 4 sold 9m copies at the end of its life and i remember many gamers saying the same thing for Halo 4 on release. Halo 5 could and up selling 7-9m at the end of its life because unlike most games, Halo games have legs and until the next release, Halo 5 is still a game being sold in stores and will be for quite some time.

*Halo 5: Guardians and game-related hardware grossed over US$400 million in its first twenty-four hours and US$500 million in its first week*

Judging from these stats, i dont see the decline. Your basing success off game sales only and not the actrually brand. Expect Halo 6 to be even bigger and better.

I Still think that those  "*Halo 5: Guardians and game-related hardware grossed over US$400 million in its first twenty-four hours and US$500 million in its first week*" are Shipped units atleast, because 400US Millions in 24 Hours means 6.6-6.7 Millions of Units sold or over 1 Million of Halo 5 bundles.

If we take into gaming only Uncharted Franchise is worth over 2 Billions of US$ not too far away from Halo (which was the first one to include Hardware in the Revenue Statement) the other forms of Midia are Advertisement for the franchise, and this does not means that is something big only because it exist, for it to be something big it need to be famous (the TV, Animated Series, HQ) for people who don't play the games, like Yu Gi Oh, and Pokemon, are famous in other Midias, Making things in other Midia was just the way Microsoft chose to market it, But Halo isn't famous out-side of Gaming.

Halo's developers (Or it was Aaron Greenberg ?) said that Halo franchise is in the same level  for gaming as Star Wars Franchise is to movies, this is a Misleading statement, because Star Wars is known even for the ones who don't see movies or for the ones who never saw Star Wars and Halo 5 isn't in this level of Popularity neither Uncharted.

Not too far away? $2b to $3.6b is a massive difference, almost twice as big. You saying its not too far off is like me saying XB1 isnt far off from PS4 sales. Twice as big is a fair difference. 

 

And Halo is known outside of gaming just like Mario is. Go up to any none gamer and ask them if they know what Halo is and do the same with Uncharted and i bet you most people know Halo and most people wont known Uncharted. Claiming Greenbergs statment as false is just your opinion. When you have a game grossing $500m in its first week is considered a blockbuster in the movie buisness.



barneystinson69 on 20 May 2016
Kerotan said:
barneystinson69 said:

You can't base one market on the reason a game sells well. The game isn't bundled anymore in NA, and hasn't been since september. The uncharted bundle was the main PS4 bundle for the holiday season. No one is saying the uncharted remaster sold well, but people should at least admit were those sales are coming from.

Lol we are in the UK sales thread.  Of course I can say it's the reason it's charting in here.  

 

And as for some older forzas they received massive bundling in the USA.  that inflated sales in the US and as a result globally big time. That's a fact. 

We're talking about Forza 6 here, not the predicessors.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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Sh1nn on 20 May 2016

U4 did 80K in Spain in week 1 (Doom ~5K)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204175893&postcount=159

Thats huge.



Jranation on 20 May 2016
Sprash said:
Versus_Evil said:

Just like "you guys" and your UC4 metacritic drama.

huh what drama?

 

You missed the drama about how 1 OPINION CAN IMPACT GAMERS IN SOOOOO MANY WAYS!

 

*cough...... A reviewer gave U4 a 4/10 which made the meta go down to 93/100. Theres was threads on it that blew the NX threads away! 

 

You should see how much fun I was having reading some of the comments XD 



Pocky Lover Boy! 

Roronaa_chan on 20 May 2016
Sh1nn said:
U4 did 80K in Spain in week 1 (Doom ~5K)

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=204175893&postcount=159

Thats huge.

that's crazy

And particularly relevant to certain geographically-restricted people



Naufraguito on 20 May 2016

Congrats U4 and Rachet, very good sales on uk.

I'm glad to see Halo Guardians having so good legs on UK.



Tim and The Princes...

Kerotan on 20 May 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Kerotan said:

Lol we are in the UK sales thread.  Of course I can say it's the reason it's charting in here.  

 

And as for some older forzas they received massive bundling in the USA.  that inflated sales in the US and as a result globally big time. That's a fact. 

We're talking about Forza 6 here, not the predicessors.

We're talking about a lot of things.  That's a side point.  

The main point is it's heavily bundled at UK retailers now so what's your point?