if this is true.. time to pack your bags Nintendo and just go 3rd party already
if this is true.. time to pack your bags Nintendo and just go 3rd party already
Soundwave said:
They have very poor odds of third party support now I'd say. No x86 and a weaker chip than the PS4 ... third parties are not going to even bother. At least the Western ones. In no fucking way is XBox One performance modern unless this a portable device either. |
I got to disagree. The x86 standard is not necessary to get ports as long as Nnitendo keeps thier current PPC architecture. It's just a very small obstacle. Weakness has not affected the third party support of Xbox One. The major factor that will decide third party support is the type of audience Nintendo attracts. If it's an audience that buys thrid-party games then they will come.
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snyps said:
I got to disagree. The x86 standard is not necessary to get ports as long as Nnitendo keeps thier current PPC architecture. It's just a very small obstacle. Weakness has not affected the third party support of Xbox One. The major factor that will decide third party support is the type of audience Nintendo attracts. If it's an audience that buys thrid-party games then they will come. |
Good luck convincing the XBox/Playstation centric folk to buy the weakest console of the bunch from Nintendo with the smallest library.
This has to be a portable to make any sense.
With specs like that it better be a portable console. Otherwise it will be doomed to fail day one...
There she goes again. At least she's sticking by her word. When she's wrong she'll probably claim that it was a last minute change. Let's not mention that Nintendo would have shot their foot in the foot again. The casual gamers who play here and there are going to get the more powerful console because they see more value in it. they see that the extra $100 is the big bang to their dollar.
Where I live a lot of people see the Wii U as an incredibly over priced console for the value it provides. It only really sells because of Smash Bro's and a few other games. A lot of these people only play shit like Madden, NHL, and CoD... and they work a lot.
So once again, Nintendo would be selling a console that may be cheaper in price than the competition, but no matter how awesome the gimmick is. People will see it as a more expensive console and will not consider it's value with a second look.
I doubt Nintendo will make that mistake again, and Emily Rogers isn't providing any evidence to make me think otherwise. It's not even convincing in consideration of other rumors out there.

During a console Development, there are several prototype each representing a hardware decision and then there is a final product which "can" be different from them. People should stop being mad by rumours they "could" be only information about the prototypes and final product "maybe" be absolutely different. While that one prototype "may" end up being the final product. Rumors are just rumors.

Slimebeast said:
What?! Of course I assume stuff because of gender. Didn't I just reason why? I have never heard of a woman even remotely interested in computer hardware, so a specialist like Emily Rogers is extremely rare, no matter your politically correct fantasy wishes. |
What the hell are you talking about? I personally know at least half a dozen women who work in IT and even more who just have an interest in computers. I obviously know more men who are tech savy, but it's not like she's a female linebacker.
Bet with Adamblaziken:
I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.
With that out of the way...Holy shit this had better not be true...There's no fucking way they're that dumb. NO. FUCKING. WAY.
Releasing a console less powerful than the base PS4 that doesn't even use X86 in 2017? It had better give out hand jobs if they want to sell these things. Word of mouth is going to crush this thing.
The only way this realistically works if it's like $200 when it launches.
Bet with Adamblaziken:
I bet that on launch the Nintendo Switch will have no built in in-game voice chat. He bets that it will. The winner gets six months of avatar control over the other user.
| Captain_Yuri said: What the tits is a "SideKick"? Hmm, interesting. Saying that it's iphone's level of a revolution is quite a high expectation. I hope you are right cause Nintendo certainly needs that kind of a revolution! |
Sidekick was... Hell I'll just show you.

My point is clear. Blackberry and Sidekick where the top-of-the-line phones of the time, but at that time no one was expecting something like the iphone to come in and literally redefine what a cellphone was. The PS4 and XBO are in a similar position right now with those two phones. They are the perfected encarnations of an antiquated hardware model. You can see tha creaking with stuff like Neo.
NX, from what I've been putting together, is going to completely redefine what a console is. It's going to be a firmware, UI, OS, and platform revolution, though. That's what's going to make this thing click with consumers. That may sound boring to you, but it's literally going to change the way home gaming. Part of making that work is going to be making it digital only for numerous reason I've reiterated in this forums for years now, which a lot of forum dwellers cringe at. It's going to be an integral factor in making this platform shine though, as well as backwards compatability.
I've said this before, but the importance of BC for NX has literally nothing to do with letting people play their old games and has everything to do with launching the NX with a robust market place of legacy. In other words, Wii U BC isn't important for Wii U games. It's important for NES, SNES, GBC, DS, N64, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, AND NX games, all available under one marketplace on day one. People have a very, understandably, warped view of what BC means because they are used to how it used to function on the old way, but this new way turns virtual console into just console, because everything is virtual. I've yet to see a single person understand what I'm talking about here because they can't get their heads away from how BC used to work. BC for the NX isn't about letting your old games run on new hardware - it's about giving NX the tools to offer Nintendo's legacy of platforms from the get go and building on from there.
All that, and more, is indeed a revolution, which is what DeNA were hired for, and the real reason behind My Nintendo and Nintendo Accounts. My Nintendo rewards are pretty worthless until you apply it to a digital only marketplace. Then it literally makes that marketplace Steam-like in its discounts, which is exactly what I said it would do. Imagine Nintendo adding 3rd party/indie games to the reward list as a way to promote them the same way PS+ does with "free" games. Imagine getting platinum points for achievements in games, again, also being accessable to 3rd parties. Imagine not needing to go on your phone or laptop to access your My Nintendo account because its integrally integrated into the UI of the NX. Imagine playing AssCreed 46 at home on your NX console, turning it off, getting on the train, and then continuing where you left off on your NX handheld because cross save/buy are a seemless and automatic thing.
Now stop imagining, because that's probably exactly what NX is. Next level shit, yo.
spemanig said:
Sidekick was... Hell I'll just show you.
My point is clear. Blackberry and Sidekick where the top-of-the-line phones of the time, but at that time no one was expecting something like the iphone to come in and literally redefine what a cellphone was. The PS4 and XBO are in a similar position right now with those two phones. They are the perfected encarnations of an antiquated hardware model. You can see tha creaking with stuff like Neo. NX, from what I've been putting together, is going to completely redefine what a console is. It's going to be a firmware, UI, OS, and platform revolution, though. That's what's going to make this thing click with consumers. That may sound boring to you, but it's literally going to change the way home gaming. Part of making that work is going to be making it digital only for numerous reason I've reiterated in this forums for years now, which a lot of forum dwellers cringe at. It's going to be an integral factor in making this platform shine though, as well as backwards compatability. I've said this before, but the importance of BC for NX has literally nothing to do with letting people play their old games and has everything to do with launching the NX with a robust market place of legacy. In other words, Wii U BC isn't important for Wii U games. It's important for NES, SNES, GBC, DS, N64, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, AND NX games, all available under one marketplace on day one. People have a very, understandably, warped view of what BC means because they are used to how it used to function on the old way, but this new way turns virtual console into just console, because everything is virtual. I've yet to see a single person understand what I'm talking about here because they can't get their heads away from how BC used to work. BC for the NX isn't about letting your old games run on new hardware - it's about giving NX the tools to offer Nintendo's legacy of platforms from the get go and building on from there. All that, and more, is indeed a revolution, which is what DeNA were hired for, and the real reason behind My Nintendo and Nintendo Accounts. My Nintendo rewards are pretty worthless until you apply it to a digital only marketplace. Then it literally makes that marketplace Steam-like in its discounts, which is exactly what I said it would do. Imagine Nintendo adding 3rd party/indie games to the reward list as a way to promote them the same way PS+ does with "free" games. Imagine getting platinum points for achievements in games, again, also being accessable to 3rd parties. Imagine not needing to go on your phone or laptop to access your My Nintendo account because its integrally integrated into the UI of the NX. Imagine playing AssCreed 46 at home on your NX console, turning it off, getting on the train, and then continuing where you left off on your NX handheld because cross save/buy are a seemless and automatic thing. Now stop imagining, because that's probably exactly what NX is. Next level shit, yo. |
I don't think you've adequetely explained one thing a "smart console" would do that isn't
A) Done today
B) Couldn't be copied easily in a firmware update.
People just want to play games and maaaaybe watch movies on their home console, no one wants to surf the internet or do any of that shit on their TV.
Sony/MS could easily offer a similar point/free games setup, that's not a feature.
Every system has retro games, you can play PS1, PS2, PS3 games on a PS4, big whoop.
If they want to make a "smart console" how about making a console that can figure out how to download itself a chipset that isn't 5 years behind the tech curve. Now that would be impressive.