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Soundwave on 19 April 2016
spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

lol, we know nothing about the system really. It's more likely Sony demolishes Nintendo the same way they crushed the GameCube. 40 million headstart + 4TFLOP system for $399? Good luck Nintendo. 

Nintendo pretty much always makes hardware mistakes anyway, you're just basking in the honeymoon period where we don't know enough about the system and think it's going to be perfectly designed; it won't be. 

We know know more than enough about the NX to know that neither Sony nor Microsoft have anything in the immediate future that will be able to compete against it. Just because you can't connect the dots doesn't mean I can't. It'll be quite the opposite. The PS2 dominated that generation because it had a DVD player. The NX will have a similar dynamic with being a smart console and smart handheld. It won't have a big controller gimmick, and it won't need one. The platform will sell it.

I don't think you really have any clue what you're talking about. You don't know anything about the NX, no one does other than those under NDA. 

To say that Sony/MS should be afraid is laughable at this point, afraid of what? 

"Smart console" is something you just made up that doesn't even make sense to begin with. 



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Soundwave on 19 April 2016
twintail said:
JRPGfan said:

Sony is doing what nintendo did, with the New 3DS.

This a New PS4.

Sony arent locking games behind PS4K (if talk is to be believed) .

Probably not but you likely will see some games run like crap on the vanilla PS4 with the "real" experience only for PS4.5 owners. 

The 3DS -- New 3DS isn't even a big jump in processing power really, it's maybe 20-25% and portable gaming really isn't about pushing graphical boundaries anyway (whereas home consoles are) ... the PS4.5 is a monstrous upgrade ... 4+ TFLOP vs. 1.8 TFLOP? 

That's not a small leap. People notice the difference between a 1.8TF PS4 and 1.2 TF XBOne as is. 



Frogger on 19 April 2016
Soundwave said:
spemanig said:

We know know more than enough about the NX to know that neither Sony nor Microsoft have anything in the immediate future that will be able to compete against it. Just because you can't connect the dots doesn't mean I can't. It'll be quite the opposite. The PS2 dominated that generation because it had a DVD player. The NX will have a similar dynamic with being a smart console and smart handheld. It won't have a big controller gimmick, and it won't need one. The platform will sell it.

I don't think you really have any clue what you're talking about. You don't know anything about the NX. 

To say that Sony/MS should be afraid is laughable at this point, afraid of what? 

"Smart console" is something you just made up that doesn't even make sense to begin with. 

I do. You don't, clearly. I said we'd get a new Nintendo platform in holiday 2016 over two years ago. Most didn't believe me. Now it's happening. I said Nintendo's first mobile app would be a passively social app specifically made to get people to sign up for their new membership program, and was NOT made to be a massive financial hit. I said this the literal same day Nintendo announced going mobile. You specifically didn't believe me. I was right. You were wrong. I said that the console model of generations was outdated and that I expected to see Apple-like incremental upgrades as soon as within the next five years. Everyone said that no one would ever be stupid enough to do that. I was only wrong about who would do it first. When I say something is going to happen before it happens, "I don't know what I'm talking about." When I turn out to be right, "it was always obvious they were going to do that from the beginning." You can only think in hindsight. I think in foresight. That's your handicap. I'm not going to let it be mine.

Sony and Microsoft have both, on numerous occasions, gone on record saying that they never underestimate Nintendo. Not after they were slaughtered last generation with ease.

Smart console is a term I use to abbreviate what Nintendo is doing with NX. The term is made up. Who cares? The application is not. It's the NX. A redefinition calls for a new word. Nintendo haven't given us their word yet, so I'm making up my own in the mean time.



Ruler on 19 April 2016

Dont worry guys its just a rumor Sony hasnt confirmed it



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Soundwave on 19 April 2016
spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

I don't think you really have any clue what you're talking about. You don't know anything about the NX. 

To say that Sony/MS should be afraid is laughable at this point, afraid of what? 

"Smart console" is something you just made up that doesn't even make sense to begin with. 

I do. You don't, clearly. I said we'd get a new Nintendo platform in holiday 2016 over two years ago. Most didn't believe me. Now it's happening. I said Nintendo's first mobile app would be a passively social app specifically made to get people to sign up for their new membership program, and was NOT made to be a massive financial hit. I said this the literal same day Nintendo announced going mobile. You specifically didn't believe me. I was right. You were wrong. I said that the console model of generations was outdated and that I expected to see Apple-like incremental upgrades as soon as within the next five years. Everyone said that no one would ever be stupid enough to do that. I was only wrong about who would do it first. When I say something is going to happen before it happens, "I don't know what I'm talking about." When I turn out to be right, "it was always obvious they were going to do that from the beginning." You can only think in hindsight. I think in foresight. That's your handicap. I'm not going to let it be mine.

Sony and Microsoft have both, on numerous occasions, gone on record saying that they never underestimate Nintendo. Not after they were slaughtered last generation with ease.

Smart console is a term I use to abbreviate what Nintendo is doing with NX. The term is made up. Who cares? The application is not. It's the NX. A redefinition calls for a new word. Nintendo haven't given us their word yet, so I'm making up my own in the mean time.

Again. You don't know anything about the NX, not anything more than anyone else does, which isn't a lot. 

"Smart" console is a meaningless term, for something you have no idea about, I don't think you even know what your own term means. It's a vague "it'll be awesome doood!" catch all phrase with no logic behind it. 

What's the difference between a smart console and a modern game console specifically?



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barneystinson69 on 19 April 2016

Why are people hyping this up so much? Its a slighly more powerful PS4, nothing more. You won't be playing 30FPS games in 60FPS all of a sudden with this meager bump.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Soundwave on 19 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:

Why are people hyping this up so much? Its a slighly more powerful PS4, nothing more. You won't be playing 30FPS games in 60FPS all of a sudden with this meager bump.

Uh, it's a monstrous GPU upgrade. 4+ TFLOP GPU vs. 1.8 TFLOP for the old model. 

You will get much better than just an extra 30 fps in a lot of games most likely. 



barneystinson69 on 19 April 2016
Soundwave said:
barneystinson69 said:

Why are people hyping this up so much? Its a slighly more powerful PS4, nothing more. You won't be playing 30FPS games in 60FPS all of a sudden with this meager bump.

Uh, it's a monstrous GPU upgrade. 4+ TFLOP GPU vs. 1.8 TFLOP for the old model. 

You will get much better than just an extra 30 fps in a lot of games most likely. 

Where does it say it'll be 4 TFLOPs?



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Hynad on 19 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Soundwave said:

Uh, it's a monstrous GPU upgrade. 4+ TFLOP GPU vs. 1.8 TFLOP for the old model. 

You will get much better than just an extra 30 fps in a lot of games most likely. 

Where does it say it'll be 4 TFLOPs?

1.84TFLOPS x 2.3TFLOPS = 4.2TFLOPS

K? Thx. Bye.



Soundwave on 19 April 2016
barneystinson69 said:
Soundwave said:

Uh, it's a monstrous GPU upgrade. 4+ TFLOP GPU vs. 1.8 TFLOP for the old model. 

You will get much better than just an extra 30 fps in a lot of games most likely. 

Where does it say it'll be 4 TFLOPs?

It's 36 CUs for the GPU spec at 911 MHz ... vs 18 CUs for the old PS4 at a lower clock. That's well over 4 TFLOPS, which is a huge difference.