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Forums - Gaming - How can anyone dissmiss the graphics of FF15? Not the devolopers but your Consoles are too weak for this game #Reality

"Its not the devolopers fault that your consoles are too weak to handle FF15. Instead complaining and whining at Square Enix you rather should beg and pettion at Sony and MS to realse a stronger PS4 or Xbox One.

I dont know i am all for Console games remaining exclusives because thats how it used to be. But seeing all this hate from the pitchfork on forums makes me really want FF15 to come to PC to prove wrong the nay sayers, and Anti-PS4K-Advocates. "

Making a game prettier is easy when you have no hardware limits. They could make FFXV so pretty that even the most advanced PCs couldn't run it with 1 FPS. The thing is, it's absolutely necessary to set a target and that target is current gen consoles.

therefore the target should be "make it as beautiful as possible, while making sure it will never drop below 30FPS".



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Ballas said:
They should develop the game according to the consoles not the other way around. That's what every dev does, as every dev could make a game that looks like Uncharted 4 running at 4k60fps if consoles were made totally based on what devs wanted.

A game that looks amazing given the limitations of the platform its on is technically more amazing to me than a game that takes things too far graphically for its own good.

Like I said earlier



ClassicGamingWizzz said:

That is why i love Kojima, dude made a game for all consoles and pc and instead of building a super pc version and then port it and it would be garbage in anything besides pc no, he made the game work perfectly in any  versions, even in last gen consoles. Game looked great in all consoles and pc and had a superb performance.

Wait so you a firm believer that PC should only get performance for the ahrdware people pay for than visuals as well?. So if I pay more for hardware then I shouldn't also get better improved visuals as well?.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

ClassicGamingWizzz said:

I dont give a flying fuck about if the pc version would be better, i just want them to make the games with good performance in the console versions.

But ofcourse you see my comment as one attack to pc as usual from you . You need to be more calm about your feelings about pc and stop to make everything like " everyone against pc and everyone hate pc ivgchartz !!!! "

Of course you needed to act hostile when I was merely asking you a question and of course saw a desire to turn it into a purposeful "us vs them" detbate. I think you are the one who needs to calm down a bit more, I was merely asking you a simple question that had a basic yes or no tag to it. You need to stop attaching a stigma to me and forcing it each time. (The "flying fuck" part reeks of hostility to which I haven't needed to swear towards you or around you within my question).



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

OttoniBastos said:

Do you realize that "optimization" and "polishing" are buzzwords that actually mean "downgrade"?

Most of the time when developers talk about optimization they are talking about graphical optimization,which basically means "what should i downgrade in order to improve performance?"

code optimization is pretty rare these days since developers use engines(which already have most of the code done).

False. Anyone one whos ever written software or even understands the basics of software knows that what you said isnt true in the slightest.  Some PC drivers improve framerates by as much at 4 to 10%, thisdoesnt downgrade the game in any way. Killer instinct was patched up to 900p from 720p, zero downgrades. Ground Zeroes performs much worse than The Phantom Pain despite being noticably uglier. The Phantom Pain is better because of *drumroll* optimization.



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The NX will be a 900p machine

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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Barely talk to you and probably this is the first time i quote you but i see forum everyday and can see these things right away http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=215491&page=4 , but lets carry on cause this is not a pc thread and this game is not even announced for pc.

Your link just takes me to the front page btw, also it's not the first time in the 2 years since I've been here that you've talked to me. It's not a PC thread but it also has talk of PC within it, it can't just be disgarded because you want it that way. I don't know why it cannot be discussed without an announcement for PC, that hasn't stopped console discussion when it came to XCOM 2 for example.

BraLoD said:

Even as he was indeed the one to get hostile, you were to one to ask something not related to what he was talking about, he clearly didn't say what you asked him about, he talked about all versions being optmized being what he wants and being happy for it, then you came to point him as a "firm believer" of something he didn't said and went sideaways asking something unrelated and tracking around "I pay more for my PC so I should get more".

Some of your posts usually has this tune where you seems like to get defensive about matters toward PC gaming for no reason.

You both should calm down, it's my outsider's not asked for opinion.

I was asking about his take on console and PC porting, that was ineed related to what he was talking about when it came to MGSV as an example, it was more than just a performance gain with that title as Konami and others on Youtube had shown so the port can't just be only about eprformance gains, there are also visual ones as well to be had, he just made it sound like it's not fair that any game on PC can't be the better version due to it being an open platform where you spec to how you see fit but wants the game to be the same across all platforms like a form of parity, I took issue with that because I believe that if someone pays for mroe higher end hardware then the game should also be able to accomdate for it rather than playing 100% the same if not worse. 

So we should both calm down but me more so than him right?(despite me being as cool as a cucumber atm but we can easily take text as emotions on the ent these days and foten choose to), becauser my posts usually end up like this? (just leading back to my stigma comment btw).



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

vivster said:

Wouldn't be the first FF game that runs like shit on a console. Also wouldn't be the firs PS4 game that runs like shit. I will believe stable 30 fps when I see it.

Actually people who think you can "optimize" away a 30% performance deficite are full of it.

Are you talking about the 360 port of XIII? Which other FF game "runs like shit" on consoles?



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

A hashtag in the title? Really?

Anyways, this is rather silly. Plenty of developers optimize games very well this generation, there's really no reason SE can't do the same. There will always be limitations, but you have to work around them and make the best experience possible. That is on the developers and the developers alone (well, also the publishers, but that's another thing).



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BraLoD said:

See? Getting defensive for no reason again, never I told you should get more or less than him, nonetheless, you took it that way and is asking me something I didn't said as if I did.

I hope it helps you to understand how you react a bit more clearly now.

No offenses, really, I don't dislike you, at all, neither him.

Call it like you see it by all means but I was still asking you a question. (Which you didn't have to answer but it would have been nice to hear)

It's not that it helps me in any way, it's just you pointing out to how I react towwars what you said, I could do the same in the future and get the opposite answer.

You don't have to like/dislike me in any way but I just get vibes of personal interest from some people on here that seemingly stand up for another but not other folk.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.