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barneystinson69 said:
Goatseye said:

What I wanna say is, if you want to be disrespectful go ahead but if you get called out on your bs, stop blaming PC as the cause for your ignorance.

Disrespectful? Oh boo hoo! You know what ignorance is? Not seeing what is in front of you. Not everyone who is right winged is ignorant. People have had enough of these immigrants demanding to change their countries becuase they say so.  Example A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPagRCb_mk

 

As for the terrorism thing, you got me there. Nonetheless, all where islam radical's, which can speak for itself. 

Sure, boo hoo. Nice link, what's in it?

As for not everyone right winged comment, guess what about Islam. 

I love radical Islam, I watch the Islam Mountain Biking Championship.
Islam Kite surf, Islam Bungie Jump. Nice, you should check it out.



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barneystinson69 said:

Why are you blaming Europe for these problems? Bush was stupid enough to engage in these wars, not Europe. Yes, they had the UK involved, but so what? Most of Europe was against it, so why pay for that mess?

As for "refugee's", many are economical migrants, and many aren't even Syrian! Do they need help, or do they just want a paycheck?

Most of refugees and migrants are against terrorism, so why are you blaming them for these problems?

I was talking about some European governments which took an active part in that. Not common people who were pretty much against it.



Goatseye said:
barneystinson69 said:

Disrespectful? Oh boo hoo! You know what ignorance is? Not seeing what is in front of you. Not everyone who is right winged is ignorant. People have had enough of these immigrants demanding to change their countries becuase they say so.  Example A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TPagRCb_mk

 

As for the terrorism thing, you got me there. Nonetheless, all where islam radical's, which can speak for itself. 

Sure, boo hoo. Nice link, what's in it?

As for not everyone right winged comment, guess what about Islam. 

I love radical Islam, I watch the Islam Mountain Biking Championship.
Islam Kite surf, Islam Bungie Jump. Nice, you should check it out.

What the heck are you saying now? You're dragging this into something it isn't. Are you telling me sporting events are going to convince me to change sides in an argument? XD

I can see the sarcasm, but it isn't good to say.



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Volterra_90 said:
barneystinson69 said:

Why are you blaming Europe for these problems? Bush was stupid enough to engage in these wars, not Europe. Yes, they had the UK involved, but so what? Most of Europe was against it, so why pay for that mess?

As for "refugee's", many are economical migrants, and many aren't even Syrian! Do they need help, or do they just want a paycheck?

Most of refugees and migrants are against terrorism, so why are you blaming them for these problems?

Cause he doesn't wanna be "Political Correct".



Ka-pi96 said:
Goatseye said:

I love radical Islam, I watch the Islam Mountain Biking Championship.
Islam Kite surf, Islam Bungie Jump. Nice, you should check it out.

Ok, I gotta ask... are those actually real things?

Ofcourse.



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Goatseye said:

Cause he doesn't wanna be "Political Correct".

Lol, I'm not entirely sure in which side of the argument you are :P



Goatseye said:
Volterra_90 said:

Most of refugees and migrants are against terrorism, so why are you blaming them for these problems?

Cause he doesn't wanna be "Political Correct".

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY (its from CBS)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

 

No, not concerning at all to the future of Europe...

And btw, these are people who've spent time in Europe. I could show polls of muslims from the middle east if you like?



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the-pi-guy said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Ok, I gotta ask... are those actually real things?

If only it was that cool...



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Really confused here as I'm not sure whether it is terrorism or crime that's being argued, and whether it is Islamophobia or immigration. Just a couple of things to consider:

1) Islam is a religion that spans multiple cultures and races. Mohammed Ali, Lauren Booth (former British PMs sister in law), Amir Khan (boxer), Sonny Bill Williams (one of the greatest Rugby players), Thierry Henry (one of the greatest footballers) and I can go on, are all Muslim and all come from different parts of the world with their own cultures.

2) the greatest act of terror with the highest death count has been against Muslims in the last 10 years. The media talks about EU, USA and Britain but forget that in Syria alone over 140,000 Muslims have been killed by terrorists.

3) people often forget that the Iraq war was illegal and therefore by all means can be considered an act of terrorism. Therefore anyone supporting it in any way, shape or form could be considered a terrorist.

4) muggings, rape, gang violence, fraud mob mentality are all acts of crime that are not limited to immigrants. Everyday there are cases being reported with less attention where the crime is being committed by noon immigrants.

5) the so called "Muslim terrorists“ are part of a cult called the Khawarij in the Muslim world. They are not considered Muslim, they do not follow Sharia law and they have killed more Muslims to date than any other faith, culture or race to date.

6) the Syrian / Afghan issue has been a 100 years in the making when the Ottoman Empire was torn up. The west decided to rip apart a Sufi led Muslim middle East and replace it dictators that only cared about money and themselves and small denominations that were the total opposite of the sufi led Ottomans. This was to ensure the Ottoman Empire could never regroup. The problem with that is simple:

The opposite of a sufi denomination is a conservative, closed off and really conservative denomination. The Saudis for example as soon as they were put in power started to destroy historical sites and push a new agenda - their agenda. They were naturally backed by their western friends.

The problem is, although all this seamed like a great idea at the time, they forgot that when you put dictators, greedy people, and very conservative minor denominations in charge who do not believe in leaders as they often just do their own thing, you are essentially brewing a shit storm.

What we see here today are the results of decisions made a century ago. Instead of addressing them, we are pointing fingers and thinking that by calling names and being hostile (something that has failed to work since 9/11, things will get better. We think that by painting everyone with the same brush because they are different will solve the problem.

It's been 15 years since 9/11 and people are singing the same song, pushing the same language, pointing fingers everywhere and hoping that something different happens. It's the definition of insanity, and people are far too invested in their own stories that they push their agenda and belief in hopes that it will make them feel better or magically produce a solution. It hasn't yet and do not be surprised if it doesn't tomorrow, or the day after.



Fei-Hung said:
Really confused here as I'm not sure whether it is terrorism or crime that's being argued, and whether it is Islamophobia or immigration. Just a couple of things to consider:

1) Islam is a religion that spans multiple cultures and races. Mohammed Ali, Lauren Booth (former British PMs sister in law), Amir Khan (boxer), Sonny Bill Williams (one of the greatest Rugby players), Thierry Henry (one of the greatest footballers) and I can go on, are all Muslim and all come from different parts of the world with their own cultures.

2) the greatest act of terror with the highest death count has been against Muslims in the last 10 years. The media talks about EU, USA and Britain but forget that in Syria alone over 140,000 Muslims have been killed by terrorists.

3) people often forget that the Iraq war was illegal and therefore by all means can be considered an act of terrorism. Therefore anyone supporting it in any way, shape or form could be considered a terrorist.

4) muggings, rape, gang violence, fraud mob mentality are all acts of crime that are not limited to immigrants. Everyday there are cases being reported with less attention where the crime is being committed by noon immigrants.

5) the so called "Muslim terrorists“ are part of a cult called the Khawarij in the Muslim world. They are not considered Muslim, they do not follow Sharia law and they have killed more Muslims to date than any other faith, culture or race to date.

6) the Syrian / Afghan issue has been a 100 years in the making when the Ottoman Empire was torn up. The west decided to rip apart a Sufi led Muslim middle East and replace it dictators that only cared about money and themselves and small denominations that were the total opposite of the sufi led Ottomans. This was to ensure the Ottoman Empire could never regroup. The problem with that is simple:

The opposite of a sufi denomination is a conservative, closed off and really conservative denomination. The Saudis for example as soon as they were put in power started to destroy historical sites and push a new agenda - their agenda. They were naturally backed by their western friends.

The problem is, although all this seamed like a great idea at the time, they forgot that when you put dictators, greedy people, and very conservative minor denominations in charge who do not believe in leaders as they often just do their own thing, you are essentially brewing a shit storm.

What we see here today are the results of decisions made a century ago. Instead of addressing them, we are pointing fingers and thinking that by calling names and being hostile (something that has failed to work since 9/11, things will get better. We think that by painting everyone with the same brush because they are different will solve the problem.

It's been 15 years since 9/11 and people are singing the same song, pushing the same language, pointing fingers everywhere and hoping that something different happens. It's the definition of insanity, and people are far too invested in their own stories that they push their agenda and belief in hopes that it will make them feel better or magically produce a solution. It hasn't yet and do not be surprised if it doesn't tomorrow, or the day after.

I will agree that the invasion of the middle east by the united states was a dumb decision, but had nothing to due with Europe.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).