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Absolute waste of time, if Star Wars was a new IP, I doubt you'd be seeing much more of it. It came and went like any other mediocre movie, and made little impact on the viewer.. Utterly disappointing, just like Episodes I & II.



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Wow, people have really turned on TFA. I knew minds were changing after the initial rush but this seems like a complete 180.



Lawlight said:
Wow, people have really turned on TFA. I knew minds were changing after the initial rush but this seems like a complete 180.

What do you mean?



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reggin_bolas said:
tokilamockingbrd said:
One thing to note on Rey. While in this movie it may seem out of place or even a plot hole that she was OP. However, this is a perfect example of an area that if the subsequent movies answer this question in a satisfactory way that it could greatly enrich its meaning in this movie.

A good example of this happening in the saga already is Obi-Wan versus Vader in ANH. By itself its a lame fight between an old man and a guy in a menacing suit, when ANH originally was released it was basically a way to make the bad guy more bad and to give our hero a sense of loss, and a reason to finally see lightsabers in action. But in the context of the entire Saga it is a huge moment.

Having future movies potentially (and that's a big if) address issues and plot holes does not excuse this movie from being lazily executed. 

 

 

 

actually the fact it is a part of 3 movie series does excuse it from not answering all the question you wanted answered in the 1st movie. That is what will make the antipation for EP 8 so fun. And there will be people who dont like 8 because it did not answer the questions from EP 7 the way they had imagined. Like I stated before, the OT trilogy is greater than the sum of its parts. 



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So, went to heard the awesome force theme or binary sunset track from Episode IV and a lot of comments talking about how the entire cinema cried when the theme started at the end in the final scene with Luke. Basically confirms that everybody went to see Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie and hear the classic Star Wars soundtrack. Nobody gives a damn about those boring flat new magical characters.

What is Disney going to do when the original cast can't no longer film?

Maybe Darth Jar Jar can help us.



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Watched it again yesterday at home. My basic thoughts.

- Still way better than any of the prequels simply for the base level that moment to moment in REGULAR scenes, not ones where 2-57 characters are dick waving a lightsaber around, the movie more or less works quite well. The funny scenes are funny. The touching scenes are touching. Harrison Ford is the best he has been in like two damn decades.

The dialogue scenes with the characters basically all work well whereas in the prequels I think three complete
movies there was *ONE* fucking scene without a lightsaber or pod racer involved that worked well and that was the Palpatine-Anakin scene in the opera house.

Downsides ....

I honestly don't think they will ever top the OT. The OT is simply too good, too groundbreaking, too meaningful, too original to ever be topped.

Think about it. How do you make a better villian than Darth Vader? And even the OT topped Darth Vader with the freaking Emperor who was even scarier. How do you create a new character better than Yoda? Han Solo? Can you have a more natural romance that actually works well like Han and Leia? Nope. Can you top the Vader is Luke's father twist? I don't think so.

All you can do is keep adding weirder lightsaber types and repeating the "character XYZ has turned to the Dark Side! Oh noes!".

Will you ever have a Star Wars film with a scene as beautiful and meaningful to REAL life (again not special effects dick waving) as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkbgvRMpW0

IMO ... I think the answer is no.

Disney's Star Wars films I'm sure will be a "well made" and relatively "safe", much in the way their Marvel films are enjoyable, but I think what TFA has really done for me is to really appreciate the greatness of the OT even moreso.

Yes some of the effects are dated, yes the Ewoks were a bit silly, but that aside, the Star Wars OT saga is just too great to be beaten.

The Force Awakens was kinda like the quality level of a good Harry Potter movie. That's decent, and better than the prequels, but the OT Star Wars is on another level. 



Pavolink said:

So, went to heard the awesome force theme or binary sunset track from Episode IV and a lot of comments talking about how the entire cinema cried when the theme started at the end in the final scene with Luke. Basically confirms that everybody went to see Luke, Han, Leia, Chewie and hear the classic Star Wars soundtrack. Nobody gives a damn about those boring flat new magical characters.

What is Disney going to do when the original cast can't no longer film?

Maybe Darth Jar Jar can help us.

Star Wars hasn't created a truly groundbreaking new character since ... The Emperor or Jabba the Hutt in Return of the Jedi. 

The prequels were a giant bust in that category. Rey/Finn/Poe are likable and believable enough at least. But you can't match the OT. 



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I still haven't seen it. I'll get it on blu-ray or watch it on Amazon Prime, at some point



Soundwave said:

Watched it again yesterday at home. My basic thoughts.

- Still way better than any of the prequels simply for the base level that moment to moment in REGULAR scenes, not ones where 2-57 characters are dick waving a lightsaber around, the movie more or less works quite well. The funny scenes are funny. The touching scenes are touching. Harrison Ford is the best he has been in like two damn decades.

The dialogue scenes with the characters basically all work well whereas in the prequels I think three complete
movies there was *ONE* fucking scene without a lightsaber or pod racer involved that worked well and that was the Palpatine-Anakin scene in the opera house.

Downsides ....

I honestly don't think they will ever top the OT. The OT is simply too good, too groundbreaking, too meaningful, too original to ever be topped.

Think about it. How do you make a better villian than Darth Vader? And even the OT topped Darth Vader with the freaking Emperor who was even scarier. How do you create a new character better than Yoda? Han Solo? Can you have a more natural romance that actually works well like Han and Leia? Nope. Can you top the Vader is Luke's father twist? I don't think so.

All you can do is keep adding weirder lightsaber types and repeating the "character XYZ has turned to the Dark Side! Oh noes!".

Will you ever have a Star Wars film with a scene as beautiful and meaningful to REAL life (again not special effects dick waving) as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkbgvRMpW0

IMO ... I think the answer is no.

Disney's Star Wars films I'm sure will be a "well made" and relatively "safe", much in the way their Marvel films are enjoyable, but I think what TFA has really done for me is to really appreciate the greatness of the OT even moreso.

Yes some of the effects are dated, yes the Ewoks were a bit silly, but that aside, the Star Wars OT saga is just too great to be beaten.

The Force Awakens was kinda like the quality level of a good Harry Potter movie. That's decent, and better than the prequels, but the OT Star Wars is on another level. 

Are you sure its better than the prequels, or are just another SW fans that wanted to have the same OT. Because that's different. I for one, can mention a lot of TFA faults.

Prequels can have bad direction, overuse of CGI and cringeworthy dialogue, but nobody can deny that not only expanded the SW universe, but also was consistent un many aspects and most importantly had a story.

Jedi Council, Coruscant, wars, Senate, invations, Jedi knights all around the galaxy, a complot to destroy the Republic and Jedi.

Now, TFA? Nothing. Reused plot of A New Hope. Zero expansion. Zero new ideas. Zero new effects. Zero plot.

 

We saw at the end of ROTJ how everywhere was celebrating that the empire was down. Coruscant, the Imperial Galactic Capital was throwing fireworks and destroying Palpatine's figure, but somehow, 30 years later the guys that won in a majestic space battle and celebrated are called "The resistance". If they are just the resistance, that means the First Order is once again controlling the Galaxy. How did they do that?

 

Now move onto the next flaw. Flat characters, perfect main character that can control the force at her pleasure and ridiculous jokes among them. Have you ever fly an spaceship? No, but who cares, I can now fly like a pro de Millenium Falcon! Han Solo is a joke compared to me! You hear that Luke? You can't despite being one great pilot!

And the fun continues. Anakin, the chosen one, the one trained by a Master Jedi in a better era, took 10 years of hardtraining to become a notable padawan. Luke had to train for three years to confront a Vader that was toying with him, and even that he loses. But in TFA universe screw that! Just touch a lightsaber and instantly become a Master Jedi!

 

The post is already long and only mentioned a couple. Definitely, TFA is getting lower and lower every minute it passes, and the turn around people is having after the hype passes is getting better and better.



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