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Do you think VR is worth the price?

Hell Yeah! its unique, and looks fun 90 65.69%
 
No. I could buy another c... 47 34.31%
 
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Pemalite on 17 March 2016
binary solo said:

I hate to tell you, but the PC VR headsets need a PC considerably more powerful than a PS4 to use them.

No. You don't.
You don't need a high-end PC that is "considerably more powerful than a PS4" to use it.  Don't spread lies.

Oculus Rift states you can use a Radeon 7750/Geforce 650 as minimum GPU's. That's lower than Xbox One's GPU hardware, if you wish to take advantage of the PC's better graphics, higher framerates, then you will want a PC that is "considerably" more powerful than a PS4, but such PC's are fairly cheap to obtain/upgrade to these days anyway.

Remember, the PC isn't a static platform, with a high-end PC using VR, you are going to have better results than the PS4 VR, the PS4 is using 4+ year old low-end hardware, it's extremely limited in what it can achieve.




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Lauster on 17 March 2016
Pemalite said:
binary solo said:

I hate to tell you, but the PC VR headsets need a PC considerably more powerful than a PS4 to use them.

No. You don't.
You don't need a high-end PC that is "considerably more powerful than a PS4" to use it.  Don't spread lies.

Oculus Rift states you can use a Radeon 7750/Geforce 650 as minimum GPU's. That's lower than Xbox One's GPU hardware, if you wish to take advantage of the PC's better graphics, higher framerates, then you will want a PC that is "considerably" more powerful than a PS4, but such PC's are fairly cheap to obtain/upgrade to these days anyway.

Remember, the PC isn't a static platform, with a high-end PC using VR, you are going to have better results than the PS4 VR, the PS4 is using 4+ year old low-end hardware, it's extremely limited in what it can achieve.

Don't spread lies :P

Or what are your sources please ?

Because what I have is 

  • NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater

https://support.oculus.com/hc/en-us/articles/215760247-Recommended-System-Specifications-



binary solo on 17 March 2016
Pemalite said:
binary solo said:

I hate to tell you, but the PC VR headsets need a PC considerably more powerful than a PS4 to use them.

No. You don't.
You don't need a high-end PC that is "considerably more powerful than a PS4" to use it.  Don't spread lies.

Oculus Rift states you can use a Radeon 7750/Geforce 650 as minimum GPU's. That's lower than Xbox One's GPU hardware, if you wish to take advantage of the PC's better graphics, higher framerates, then you will want a PC that is "considerably" more powerful than a PS4, but such PC's are fairly cheap to obtain/upgrade to these days anyway.

Remember, the PC isn't a static platform, with a high-end PC using VR, you are going to have better results than the PS4 VR, the PS4 is using 4+ year old low-end hardware, it's extremely limited in what it can achieve.

You are completely full of shit and you should maybe be reported for calling me a liar.

Here's what Oculus says about using Rift on a PC with lower specs than the recommended

My video card falls just short of the recommended. Will I be fine?

Unfortunately, if your GPU is weaker than the GTX 970 or R9 290, then you will need to upgrade it to properly meet the recommended specs

You can do so for ~$350 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~£270 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~€370 (NVIDIA | AMD) on Amazon.

NOTE: The GTX 780 Ti should meet the recommended spec, however any AMD cards predating the R9 290 do not.

 

And here's what they say about the absolute minimum specs you've referenced:

Can I use a weaker PC for basic content?

With weaker hardware, it may be possible to run very graphically simplistic content like virtual desktop, virtual cinema (for watching movies), and 360 videos, however you will be totally on your own without support if you choose to do this, and it is unlikely that there will be many (or any) games that support lower specs.

If you do wish to take this non-recommended path, your PC must at least meet the absolute minimum requirements:

  • Video Card: GTX 650 / AMD 7750 desktop GPU or better and newer
  • USB Ports: 2x USB 3.0 ports
  • Video Output: free HDMI 1.3 output
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or newer

It's impossible to get an equivalent experience to PSVR with the specs you've suggested. If you go with that bare minimum you won't be able to use Rift for the main purpose for which it was created. Ergo you need a PC with specs considerably higher than PS4.



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Ultrashroomz on 17 March 2016

Not exactly a fan of VR based off a Oculus Roft demo I tried a while ago.

I'm probably not gonna just shelf out $400 on PSVR either, especially when that money can be used towards another game console.



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Pemalite on 17 March 2016
Lauster said:
Pemalite said:

No. You don't.
You don't need a high-end PC that is "considerably more powerful than a PS4" to use it.  Don't spread lies.

Oculus Rift states you can use a Radeon 7750/Geforce 650 as minimum GPU's. That's lower than Xbox One's GPU hardware, if you wish to take advantage of the PC's better graphics, higher framerates, then you will want a PC that is "considerably" more powerful than a PS4, but such PC's are fairly cheap to obtain/upgrade to these days anyway.

Remember, the PC isn't a static platform, with a high-end PC using VR, you are going to have better results than the PS4 VR, the PS4 is using 4+ year old low-end hardware, it's extremely limited in what it can achieve.

Don't spread lies :P

Or what are your sources please ?

Because what I have is 

  • NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater

https://support.oculus.com/hc/en-us/articles/215760247-Recommended-System-Specifications-

Those are recommended.
Recommended is usually high-end and usually is more than you need in many cases.
The other is minimum, any in between minimum and recommended will usually work fine.

binary solo said:
Pemalite said:

No. You don't.
You don't need a high-end PC that is "considerably more powerful than a PS4" to use it.  Don't spread lies.

Oculus Rift states you can use a Radeon 7750/Geforce 650 as minimum GPU's. That's lower than Xbox One's GPU hardware, if you wish to take advantage of the PC's better graphics, higher framerates, then you will want a PC that is "considerably" more powerful than a PS4, but such PC's are fairly cheap to obtain/upgrade to these days anyway.

Remember, the PC isn't a static platform, with a high-end PC using VR, you are going to have better results than the PS4 VR, the PS4 is using 4+ year old low-end hardware, it's extremely limited in what it can achieve.

You are completely full of shit and you should maybe be reported for calling me a liar.

Here's what Oculus says about using Rift on a PC with lower specs than the recommended

My video card falls just short of the recommended. Will I be fine?

Unfortunately, if your GPU is weaker than the GTX 970 or R9 290, then you will need to upgrade it to properly meet the recommended specs

You can do so for ~$350 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~£270 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~€370 (NVIDIA | AMD) on Amazon.

NOTE: The GTX 780 Ti should meet the recommended spec, however any AMD cards predating the R9 290 do not.

 

And here's what they say about the absolute minimum specs you've referenced:

Can I use a weaker PC for basic content?

With weaker hardware, it may be possible to run very graphically simplistic content like virtual desktop, virtual cinema (for watching movies), and 360 videos, however you will be totally on your own without support if you choose to do this, and it is unlikely that there will be many (or any) games that support lower specs.

If you do wish to take this non-recommended path, your PC must at least meet the absolute minimum requirements:

  • Video Card: GTX 650 / AMD 7750 desktop GPU or better and newer
  • USB Ports: 2x USB 3.0 ports
  • Video Output: free HDMI 1.3 output
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or newer

It's impossible to get an equivalent experience to PSVR with the specs you've suggested. If you go with that bare minimum you won't be able to use Rift for the main purpose for which it was created. Ergo you need a PC with specs considerably higher than PS4.

You just proved my point. Thank you, you don't need a Geforce 970. So report away.
Games on PC aren't tied to any particular hardware, you just reduce/increase visuals and gain/loose framerates. Oculus and it's ilk take advantage of that.

It's the same where PC games typically say 'Mobile chipsets are not supported'. - The game will function fine as mobile is usually just a slower version of the desktop GPU's, it just covers bases to remove any responsibility from devs/publishers.




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Lauster on 17 March 2016
Pemalite said:
Lauster said:

Don't spread lies :P

Or what are your sources please ?

Because what I have is 

  • NVIDIA GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater

https://support.oculus.com/hc/en-us/articles/215760247-Recommended-System-Specifications-

Those are recommended.
Recommended is usually high-end and usually is more than you need in many cases.
The other is minimum, any in between minimum and recommended will usually work fine.

binary solo said:

You are completely full of shit and you should maybe be reported for calling me a liar.

Here's what Oculus says about using Rift on a PC with lower specs than the recommended

My video card falls just short of the recommended. Will I be fine?

Unfortunately, if your GPU is weaker than the GTX 970 or R9 290, then you will need to upgrade it to properly meet the recommended specs

You can do so for ~$350 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~£270 (NVIDIA | AMD) / ~€370 (NVIDIA | AMD) on Amazon.

NOTE: The GTX 780 Ti should meet the recommended spec, however any AMD cards predating the R9 290 do not.

 

And here's what they say about the absolute minimum specs you've referenced:

Can I use a weaker PC for basic content?

With weaker hardware, it may be possible to run very graphically simplistic content like virtual desktop, virtual cinema (for watching movies), and 360 videos, however you will be totally on your own without support if you choose to do this, and it is unlikely that there will be many (or any) games that support lower specs.

If you do wish to take this non-recommended path, your PC must at least meet the absolute minimum requirements:

  • Video Card: GTX 650 / AMD 7750 desktop GPU or better and newer
  • USB Ports: 2x USB 3.0 ports
  • Video Output: free HDMI 1.3 output
  • OS: Windows 7 SP1 64 bit or newer

It's impossible to get an equivalent experience to PSVR with the specs you've suggested. If you go with that bare minimum you won't be able to use Rift for the main purpose for which it was created. Ergo you need a PC with specs considerably higher than PS4.

You just proved my point. Thank you, you don't need a Geforce 970. So report away.
Games on PC aren't tied to any particular hardware, you just reduce/increase visuals and gain/loose framerates. Oculus and it's ilk take advantage of that.

It's the same where PC games typically say 'Mobile chipsets are not supported'. - The game will function fine as mobile is usually just a slower version of the desktop GPU's, it just covers bases to remove any responsibility from devs/publishers.

Binary solo's point still stands.

So if you want the same experience than the PSVR, you need the recommended specification, that's all ^^



Lauster on 17 March 2016
padib said:

VR looks amazing, and the price is good either way. PC enthusiasts who invest in their machines have spent the money on their rig, and an occulus VR would be available for generations to come. With Sony, there are gen-by-gen upgrades required for their platform and peripherals so when it comes to cost it's going to be comparable in the end.

The only question is which games do you want to VR on? I would prefer the occulus because it's designed for VR as a platform, while the PSVR is designed for PS4 games first as a platform, then PSVR as an accessory, unless they go Kinect on it, but I don't have as much faith in that kind of aggressive branding for their accessories as MS did, just looking back at their history with accessories (eyetoy, move, etc.), where the Kinect branding was always much stronger. So yes they have a lot of games to work with, but they are not VR games at heart.

So we will see, but ultimately I am very excited about VR as possibly the first thing I've been really excited about in gaming for YEARS.

Move can be used on PS3 and PS4.

Why PSVR couldn't be used the same way on PS5 ? There is no restriction for this



LudicrousSpeed on 17 March 2016

I've tried it, it was cool, but a gimmick. Mostly because of the graphics. I don't wanna upgrade my PC to experience it there since I built a new one just last year, and I don't wanna settle for lower tier experiences like PSVR or whatever Samsungs device is called. Not at launch prices anyway. If I found one of those used in a deal I would think about it.

And buy for PC awhile down the line.



kitler53 on 17 March 2016

at $400 i'm out for now.

not cheap enough to be an impuse buy. i'm still worried that support will dry up in a year if sales are low. also i've never tried vr so i don't really even know if i'll like it.

but i'm more likely to get psvr than any other platform. i have a ps4 and wiiU and xbox and pc is just too redundant for me to care. i've got more traditional games than i can play already just on ps4. at least psvr is a completely different experience and lots of my online friends have been raving about it,



method114 on 17 March 2016
kitler53 said:
at $400 i'm out for now.

not cheap enough to be an impuse buy. i'm still worried that support will dry up in a year if sales are low. also i've never tried vr so i don't really even know if i'll like it.

but i'm more likely to get psvr than any other platform. i have a ps4 and wiiU and xbox and pc is just too redundant for me to care. i've got more traditional games than i can play already just on ps4. at least psvr is a completely different experience and lots of my online friends have been raving about it,

For people like you (and me) the solution is very easy. Go to walmart or bestbuy or any other local retailer really and just buy it and try it out. If you don't think it's worth $400 or at any price you can just return it. Idid this with the X1 when Titan Fall came out. I bought the X1 TF bundle tried it out didn't like it and returned it the very next week

Like you I've never tried VR but I've heard so many great things from those who have. So I'll try it out and see if it's worth the $400 if not it'll go right back to the store. At most you'll be out $60 to buy a game that works with the VR. I have drive club which works with PSVR so that's what I'll use.