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justiceiro on 11 March 2016

Really impressive, i have to admit.



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Lafiel on 11 March 2016

the gif in the OP doesn't look like an upgrade, it looks like it introduces "black crush"

lots of darker detail is totally lost, the only positive I see is that actual black is not grey in the 2016 pic



VitroBahllee on 11 March 2016

Nathan Drake looks like if Richard Gere and Ted Cruz had a baby. These are awesome cutscenes. His hand does look weird whenever you can see it, but a Cruz/Gere baby would have puffy hands, so it's all good.



Lafiel on 11 March 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Lafiel said:
the gif in the OP doesn't look like an upgrade, it looks like it introduces "black crush"

lots of darker detail is totally lost, the only positive I see is that actual black is not grey in the 2016 pic

The darker look makes sense, though. He's in a cave, so the "brighter" tone of the 2015 pic makes it look more unrealistic. That and the wall Drake is holding on to is a clear step above what it was before.

yea that is true, but I really hope the environments are adequately lit during gameplay, because nothing is more frustrating to me than not being able to see shit when playing a game



Thunderbird77 on 11 March 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Thunderbird77 said:

What do you mean by nothing wrong with differences? Sure, in-game models don't have to look the same as the ones in a cutscene. The problem is showing only the cutscene models and making people believe that's in-game. Could you link one of this videos?

But, if they only showed cutscene models, your point would hold air. But, that's incorrect.

As for gameplay:

 

Your stance is unfounded.

You have officially proved I'm 100% right. We only see cutscenes or in-game back view of drake in that footage. His in-game face only shows up from a distance, so we can conveniently not see the details. I wonder what's so hard about turning the character towards the camera during gameplay, if showing off graphics is what they want. Seriously, that's all it takes. Seems pretty clear they don't want people to see the difference between in-game models and cutscene ones.



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Thunderbird77 on 11 March 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Lafiel said:
the gif in the OP doesn't look like an upgrade, it looks like it introduces "black crush"

lots of darker detail is totally lost, the only positive I see is that actual black is not grey in the 2016 pic

The darker look makes sense, though. He's in a cave, so the "brighter" tone of the 2015 pic makes it look more unrealistic. That and the wall Drake is holding on to is a clear step above what it was before.

But it's not more technically demanding than before. The rock does look like it got a better texture but overall it looks like the same scene with different lightning.



Qwark on 11 March 2016

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VitroBahllee on 11 March 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Thunderbird77 said:

You have officially proved I'm 100% right. We only see cutscenes or in-game back view of drake in that footage. His in-game face only shows up from a distance, so we can conveniently not see the details. I wonder what's so hard about turning the character towards the camera during gameplay, if showing off graphics is what they want. Seriously, that's all it takes. Seems pretty clear they don't want people to see the difference between in-game models and cutscene ones.

Nah, what I'm seeing here is you're choosing to believe what you want to believe.

 

Thunderbird77 said:

But it's not more technically demanding than before. The rock does look like it got a better texture but overall it looks like the same scene with different lightning.

You have no way of knowing that.

If he can't know it is not more demanding than before, why are people acting like it definitely is?



AEGRO on 11 March 2016
Thunderbird77 said:

You have officially proved I'm 100% right. We only see cutscenes or in-game back view of drake in that footage. His in-game face only shows up from a distance, so we can conveniently not see the details. I wonder what's so hard about turning the character towards the camera during gameplay, if showing off graphics is what they want. Seriously, that's all it takes. Seems pretty clear they don't want people to see the difference between in-game models and cutscene ones.

The Cutscenes are made with the same ingame engine as all Uncharted  games, what are you trying to debate here?

Do you find those graphics underwhelming?



Thunderbird77 on 11 March 2016
CGI-Quality said:
VitroBahllee said:

If he can't know it is not more demanding than before, why are people acting like it definitely is?

Where in here does anyone claim it is technically more demanding? Visual upgrades =! it asks more of the hardware.

But it isn't exactly a visual upgrade, just looks different.