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TJZ_Link on 28 February 2016

Pretty interesting. Sounds like a handheld that you can stream games on TV.
The Iwata part though. TAT



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Soundwave on 28 February 2016

To be honest a hybrid wouldn't be *that* bad. It would be immediately and very easily functionally different from the XB1/PS4 in a way consumers would be able to understand very quickly.

And I do think the tech is there or very close to being there ... PowerVR has 800 GFLOP chip since last year using mobile components and they've said they could go even higher than that if a vendor really wanted. AMD probably can do the same.

The porting part sounds really interesting though, if Nintendo has aped MS/Sony's design architectures to somehow allow for painfully easy ports that can be compiled together with no fuss ... that's a potentially ingenious move.



Soundwave on 28 February 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
shikamaru317 said:

Sounds like a small tablet sized handheld that will replace both Wii U and 3DS by topping the specs of both and allowing you to stream games to your tv while using the handheld as a controller. A handheld with close to XB1 level specs, that's darn impressive. But I have to wonder, what would the battery life on something like that be? The most powerful tablets out right now don't come anywhere near XB1 specs afaik, they're like half of XB1 specs. It is rumored to be using AMD's newest generation tech (CPU and GPU) which AMD claims are quite a bit more powerful and efficient, but I still have to wonder about battery life.

I like the sound of the haptic analog sticks, as long as you can disable the function if you find it annoying for some games. I could see it being cool in racing games, it could potentially allow you to "feel the road", much like you can with high end racing wheels. 

 

That and price. I'm not a tech guy but it's hard to imagine it selling for less than 400$. That'll hurt it's ability to be sold as a handheld, assuming it even qualifys as one. With dual screens and analog sticks, I don't see how it's gonna fit in my pocket.

It doesn't really have to fit in your pocket. It could be a new type of hardware form factor, people have no problem taking tablets everywhere with them anyway.

I don't think it would be $400 either, people underestimate how powerful new mobile chips are and how cheap they are. The top of the line Apple A9X in the iPad Pro which pumps out like 500 GFLOPS costs about $40 to mass produce/unit. If Nintendo is using a cheaper-ish screen (1280x720 resolution say), they could easy get a monstrously powerful "portable console". 



Frogger on 28 February 2016
shikamaru317 said:

One of their mobile devices I'm guessing, they all pretty much look the same. To me the baby of a Samsung device and 2DS suggests a small sized tablet, that's stylistically more modern (thinner, more rounded, etc.) than the 2DS, but with typical video game controls added on (analog sticks, d-pad, face buttons, shoulder buttons). 

Perhaps Nintendo will sell a typical controller that can be used in place of the handheld when gaming on your tv, much like the Wii U Pro Controller.

Reading it again, it sounds like he's actually describing how the OS looks like instead of how the actual physical hardware looks like. Crisis averted. (for now)

Don't know why he said 2DS specifically, though.



Frogger on 28 February 2016
Soundwave said:

It sounds like a hybrid portable device. 


If it can run XB1 graphics, that would be extremely impressive.

The haptic analog stick part sounds cool too.

I dunno, usually I can sniff out phony rumours pretty easily, but some of this sounds on point.

The easy compiling/porting of XB1/PS4 games kinda sounds a lot like what Nintendo was doing with indie game ports on the Wii U, no?

If it can run XB1 graphics, that would be extremely impossible. No portable is going to be that powerful for years.



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Lonely_Dolphin on 28 February 2016
Soundwave said:

It doesn't really have to fit in your pocket. It could be a new type of hardware form factor, people have no problem taking tablets everywhere with them anyway.

I don't think it would be $400 either, people underestimate how powerful new mobile chips are and how cheap they are. The top of the line Apple A9X in the iPad Pro which pumps out like 500 GFLOPS costs about $40 to mass produce/unit. If Nintendo is using a cheaper-ish screen (1280x720 resolution say), they could easy get a monstrously powerful "portable console". 

 

Eh I guess so on the portability thing, but as for cost, why didn't the XB1/PS4 use those chips then? There must be more to it than that.



deskpro2k3 on 28 February 2016

it better have some kick ass battery life or it'll bust.



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Soundwave on 28 February 2016
Einsam_Delphin said:
Soundwave said:

It doesn't really have to fit in your pocket. It could be a new type of hardware form factor, people have no problem taking tablets everywhere with them anyway.

I don't think it would be $400 either, people underestimate how powerful new mobile chips are and how cheap they are. The top of the line Apple A9X in the iPad Pro which pumps out like 500 GFLOPS costs about $40 to mass produce/unit. If Nintendo is using a cheaper-ish screen (1280x720 resolution say), they could easy get a monstrously powerful "portable console". 

 

Eh I guess so on the portability thing, but as for cost, why didn't the XB1/PS4 use those chips then? There must be more to it than that.

The types of chips available today simply weren't available 3-4 years ago, 14nm/16nm manufacturing process wasn't even possible back then. 

The massive competetion in the mobile phone/tablet business has also lead to a rapid acceleration in the quality of mobile chips. 



Frogger on 28 February 2016
Jranation said:

I like that Idea! Sadly I didn't see you posts about it being a "Smart Console". But I do love "Smart" things. 

Yup. People said a console that focused on firmware and OS didn't make sense. Others said that it wasn't a good assumption because, laughably, the PS4/XBO were already smart devices.



shenlong213 on 28 February 2016
spemanig said:
Soundwave said:

It sounds like a hybrid portable device. 


If it can run XB1 graphics, that would be extremely impressive.

The haptic analog stick part sounds cool too.

I dunno, usually I can sniff out phony rumours pretty easily, but some of this sounds on point.

The easy compiling/porting of XB1/PS4 games kinda sounds a lot like what Nintendo was doing with indie game ports on the Wii U, no?

If it can run XB1 graphics, that would be extremely impossible. No portable is going to be that powerful for years.

Or it just only need better stream technology than wii u gamepad



 

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