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My thinks, NX have 2 parts, HC can be a Wiiu-HC, use ARM whose remplace PowerPC (RISC) and runs wiiu games... The second part isn't à HH, i think it going to be a server, a small serveur with ZEN AMD for serveur and perhaps few graphique cores.
The two parts of NX could be HSA plateform, so ARM, ZEN X86 and GPUs can be combined, create localy cloud computing, the server could be the stockage, TV display, and can have cloud computing capacity with all other small serveur NX, organised in community... This serveur could explained this part :

but an app idea is Wii U x50 and Playstation Vita x100. The key is that all the tech is exactly the same hardware layout as the PS4 and Xbox One which then combine it with the OS’s strong emulation functions and compiler means that any game that can run of a Playstation 4 or Xbox One can easily run on the NX with near-zero modification to the original source code

Emulation functions and virtualisation are like brothers,



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Akeos said:
My thinks, NX have 2 parts, HC can be a Wiiu-HC, use ARM whose remplace PowerPC (RISC) and runs wiiu games... The second part isn't à HH, i think it going to be a server, a small serveur with ZEN AMD for serveur and perhaps few graphique cores.
The two parts of NX could be HSA plateform, so ARM, ZEN X86 and GPUs can be combined, create localy cloud computing, the server could be the stockage, TV display, and can have cloud computing capacity with all other small serveur NX, organised in community... This serveur could explained this part :

but an app idea is Wii U x50 and Playstation Vita x100. The key is that all the tech is exactly the same hardware layout as the PS4 and Xbox One which then combine it with the OS’s strong emulation functions and compiler means that any game that can run of a Playstation 4 or Xbox One can easily run on the NX with near-zero modification to the original source code

Emulation functions and virtualisation are like brothers,

Well. RISC vs CISC aka. PowerPC vs x86 isn't an issue anymore. Internally x86 is very RISC like, x86 CPU's typically use microcode to convert complex instructions into simpler ones, and then it executes those simpler instructions, just like RISC.

PowerPC and ARM have different instruction sets, so they do need to emulate each other, same with x86. But there are ways around it. See: Virtualisation, Binary Translation. etc'.

The point begs though... Is there any point to emulating the Wii U? It didn't sell in any great numbers, has a limited software library, so it's probably a pointless affair.

As for Cloud computing... Any device that is connected to the Internet can have Cloud Computing... Even the Sega Dreamcast via it's Dial-up 33.6k modem, Nintendo could even hire server time from Microsoft to do just that.




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Pemalite said:


The point begs though... Is there any point to emulating the Wii U? It didn't sell in any great numbers, has a limited software library, so it's probably a pointless affair.


That's THE point, isn't it?

If Nintendo has to move away from the PowerPC architecture, doing it now makes the most sense because of Wii U's low install base.



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JEMC said:
Pemalite said:


The point begs though... Is there any point to emulating the Wii U? It didn't sell in any great numbers, has a limited software library, so it's probably a pointless affair.


That's THE point, isn't it?

Agree, WiiU games have a lot of value. The WiiU will become a very rare console, way rarer than the GCube. But it has a lot of interesting games, a lot of people might want to try them without needing to look after a WiiU. And if the NX changes the architecture of the NX, direct BC is going to be awfully difficult (in contrast to the easy Wii-GC compatibility).

If they don't guarantee fully BC, they could do something similar to the XBone-360.



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Darwinianevolution said:
JEMC said:

That's THE point, isn't it?

Agree, WiiU games have a lot of value. The WiiU will become a very rare console, way rarer than the GCube. But it has a lot of interesting games, a lot of people might want to try them without needing to look after a WiiU. And if the NX changes the architecture of the NX to PowerPC, direct BC is going to be awfully difficult (in contrast to the easy Wii-GC compatibility).

If they don't guarantee fully BC, they could do something similar to the XBone-360.

That's true.

But what's more important, to keep backwards compatibility to let new users play "old" Wii U games on their NX console, even if that means keep using hardware that rest of the industry doesn't support and therefore making ports a bit more difficult, or moving away from PowerPC to make their console easier to develop for even if that means that whoever wants to play Wii U games will have to buy an used Wii U or buy one of the possible re-releases on NX.

That's one of the decisions that Nintendo will have to make has been forced to take, and that will play an important role into what kind of console we may see.



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JEMC said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Agree, WiiU games have a lot of value. The WiiU will become a very rare console, way rarer than the GCube. But it has a lot of interesting games, a lot of people might want to try them without needing to look after a WiiU. And if the NX changes the architecture of the NX to PowerPC, direct BC is going to be awfully difficult (in contrast to the easy Wii-GC compatibility).

If they don't guarantee fully BC, they could do something similar to the XBone-360.

That's true.

But what's more important, to keep backwards compatibility to let new users play "old" Wii U games on their NX console, even if that means keep using hardware that rest of the industry doesn't support and therefore making ports a bit more difficult, or moving away from PowerPC to make their console easier to develop for even if that means that whoever wants to play Wii U games will have to buy an used Wii U or buy one of the possible re-releases on NX.

That's one of the decisions that Nintendo will have to make has been forced to take, and that will play an important role into what kind of console we may see.

Their priority now is expanding their userbase. I'd love BC from the start,but I'm sure Nintendo is already making a couple of Wii/WiiU remasters for the NX first year. An emulation similar to XBone-360 would be ideal, specially to reward WiiU users, they get the upgraded version of the games they already own.

Also, we don't even know if the NX home console will use CDs, considering they can either go fully digital or go back to cartridges to make the system compatible with the handheld NX. So regular BC isn't even clear. We could see a scenario where the NX is naturally BC with the DS/3DS instead of the WiiU, just because their games are on cartridges.



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Darwinianevolution said:
JEMC said:

That's true.

But what's more important, to keep backwards compatibility to let new users play "old" Wii U games on their NX console, even if that means keep using hardware that rest of the industry doesn't support and therefore making ports a bit more difficult, or moving away from PowerPC to make their console easier to develop for even if that means that whoever wants to play Wii U games will have to buy an used Wii U or buy one of the possible re-releases on NX.

That's one of the decisions that Nintendo will have to make has been forced to take, and that will play an important role into what kind of console we may see.

Their priority now is expanding their userbase. I'd love BC from the start,but I'm sure Nintendo is already making a couple of Wii/WiiU remasters for the NX first year. An emulation similar to XBone-360 would be ideal, specially to reward WiiU users, they get the upgraded version of the games they already own.

Also, we don't even know if the NX home console will use CDs, considering they can either go fully digital or go back to cartridges to make the system compatible with the handheld NX. So regular BC isn't even clear. We could see a scenario where the NX is naturally BC with the DS/3DS instead of the WiiU, just because their games are on cartridges.

Well, no, no and imaginary handheld NX. It's already bad to talk about hardware we don't know, even worse is talking as if it's two things.



Darwinianevolution said:
JEMC said:

That's true.

But what's more important, to keep backwards compatibility to let new users play "old" Wii U games on their NX console, even if that means keep using hardware that rest of the industry doesn't support and therefore making ports a bit more difficult, or moving away from PowerPC to make their console easier to develop for even if that means that whoever wants to play Wii U games will have to buy an used Wii U or buy one of the possible re-releases on NX.

That's one of the decisions that Nintendo will have to make has been forced to take, and that will play an important role into what kind of console we may see.

Their priority now is expanding their userbase. I'd love BC from the start,but I'm sure Nintendo is already making a couple of Wii/WiiU remasters for the NX first year. An emulation similar to XBone-360 would be ideal, specially to reward WiiU users, they get the upgraded version of the games they already own.

Also, we don't even know if the NX home console will use CDs, considering they can either go fully digital or go back to cartridges to make the system compatible with the handheld NX. So regular BC isn't even clear. We could see a scenario where the NX is naturally BC with the DS/3DS instead of the WiiU, just because their games are on cartridges.

But having an optical drive or not doesn't necessarily mean the lack or not of BC. For example, if the console lacks an optical drive but keeps using a PowerPC processor, Nintendo could use the new account system to track which Wii U games we have and allow us to get a digital copy of that game on NX, for free of for a small amount.

But yeah, I agree that the priority has to be to expand the current userbase, and given that there are so many unknows (if we're talking about a handheld then all this talk is pointless), anything is still possible.



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Thunderbird77 said:
Darwinianevolution said:

Their priority now is expanding their userbase. I'd love BC from the start,but I'm sure Nintendo is already making a couple of Wii/WiiU remasters for the NX first year. An emulation similar to XBone-360 would be ideal, specially to reward WiiU users, they get the upgraded version of the games they already own.

Also, we don't even know if the NX home console will use CDs, considering they can either go fully digital or go back to cartridges to make the system compatible with the handheld NX. So regular BC isn't even clear. We could see a scenario where the NX is naturally BC with the DS/3DS instead of the WiiU, just because their games are on cartridges.

Well, no, no and imaginary handheld NX. It's already bad to talk about hardware we don't know, even worse is talking as if it's two things.

Aren't there rumours already about Smash4 getting a Deluxe version for the NX? I know there are just rumours, but considering the amount of correct leaks there have been lately, it's not out of the question. And if Smash4 is getting one, I can see others (MarioMaker and XenobladeX are my bets).

Nintendo has taken a lot of steps to unify the architectures and libraries of their devices. And considering that handhelds are Nintendo's best selling line of products, the idea of a handheld NX is, once again, not out of the question. Mobile tech is really good nowadays and can get close to console power. And if they want to unify their libraries, CDs present the inconvinience of not being that appropiate for portable devices.



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