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I haven't made a thread about the NX yet and haven't done so in general for a while. The NX is coming we don't what it is, what it looks like, it specs or whatsoever. So I am not even going to speculate about that. I do have a simple question will the NX be able to be succesfull amongside the salesbeast called PS4. I can see two scenario's ahead of me when it comes to the NX, if it even is another home console. The first scenario is that Nintendo is going to attack the PS4 by making a superior device with better specs X86 architecture and no BS gimmicks and close some sweet deals with third party supporters in which a partnership with Rockstar takes the cake as best case scenario.

In this scenario I see the NX not being able to do better than the XOne, but even that is quite animprovement in comparrison of the Wii U, let's call this the gamecube 2 scenario. My second scenario is the forthcoming of Wii U 2 but than better, in this scenario the NX will become a hybrid console, which will be even further detachable.. Imagine being able to play some of your favourite Wii, 3DS, GC and some Indie games on a more sleek gamepad (looking a bit like a PS Vita or gameboy advance with 2 analog sticks, gyro andtouchscreen) with it's own 8GB flash memory. When at home you can play Wii U and NX games on the big screen or off tv-mode. I see this device do much better than Wii U, but due to it still being powerpc (for backwards compabilty), so low third party support. Some streaming magic will even make playing NX and Wii U games you bought on the go a possibillity, with a good wifi network. This scenario embodies the best of handheld and console since you can litteraly play both and the memory of Gamepad 2 is ofcourse interchangable. Developers might even choose to make some games audienced for on the go against cheaper prices and full retail games for the NX at home.

I have said my toughts about the first scenario, what I would like to know from you guys is what do you think about the design of the second scenario and would it be able to do well alongside the twins.


 



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Unless the NX turns out to be the second coming of the Wii, the NX has no chance of beating the PS4 in sales. But it doesn't need to. A 60-80m userbase between handhelds and home consoles with an unified library would be enough for Nintendo to get enough profits and stability.



You know it deserves the GOTY.

Come join The 2018 Obscure Game Monthly Review Thread.

No. Nintendo doesn't know how-- err, doesn't want to compete, especially with Sony.



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Darwinianevolution said:

Unless the NX turns out to be the second coming of the Wii, the NX has no chance of beating the PS4 in sales. But it doesn't need to. A 60-80m userbase between handhelds and home consoles with an unified library would be enough for Nintendo to get enough profits and stability.

In that case they certainly they certainly claim a spot in the market again which they lost with Wii U



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IkePoR said:
No. Nintendo doesn't know how-- err, doesn't want to compete, especially with Sony.

They have a new director and desperate times call for desperate meassures 



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Better specs won't really do it. If Nintendo is going to win against specs, it can't be a Dreamcast/Gamecube kind of difference. It would have to be nearly a full gen ahead to gain traction in the hardcore market. It has to be a difference that you can see instantly from a glance, not something you need digital foundry to analyze.

A Wii U 2 would be even worse. Neither off screen play (Wii U) nor console quality games on the go (Vita) have proven to be a huge draw. It'd be pretty stupid to try to expand on the Wii U idea considering how badly it did.

There are two possibilities I can see working.

First one is something like the Wii. Something based on a gimmick that appeals to the market of lapsed Wii owners, kids, and "casual" gamers. These are the areas that the PS4 is weakest in, and the best chance for Nintendo.

The other far less likely scenario is if Nintendo really radically changed their distribution method. Something like a Netflix/PSPlusish service could provide a big financial advantage to owning an NX.



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Qwark said:
IkePoR said:
No. Nintendo doesn't know how-- err, doesn't want to compete, especially with Sony.

They have a new director and desperate times call for desperate meassures 

As stated many times when Iwata was in charge, NoJ could have the most forward thinking, business savvy, with the times President ever and it wouldn't matter because of the board of old, clueless directors who would shoot down anything "new and exciting".  Nintendo's future is safe because they have money but it has been and will be playing catch up(in terms of console ability and competitive atmosphere) for as long as those fossils sit at their chairs.



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Can they? Yes. (As in, they can sell on par with PS4 or better combined while the PS4 is still on the market) Will they? Time will tell. A lot to mess up on, no matter how good I think the actual product will be.



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I haven't made a thread about the NX yet and haven't done so in general for a while. The NX is coming we don't what it is, what it looks like, it specs or whatsoever. So I am not even going to speculate about that. I do have a simple question will the NX be able to be succesfull amongside the salesbeast called PS4. I can see two scenario's ahead of me when it comes to the NX, if it even is another home console. The first scenario is that Nintendo is going to attack the PS4 by making a superior device with better specs X86 architecture and no BS gimmicks and close some sweet deals with third party supporters in which a partnership with Rockstar takes the cake as best case scenario.

In this scenario I see the NX not being able to do better than the XOne, but even that is quite animprovement in comparrison of the Wii U, let's call this the gamecube 2 scenario. My second scenario is the forthcoming of Wii U 2 but than better, in this scenario the NX will become a hybrid console, which will be even further detachable.. Imagine being able to play some of your favourite Wii, 3DS, GC and some Indie games on a more sleek gamepad (looking a bit like a PS Vita or gameboy advance with 2 analog sticks, gyro andtouchscreen) with it's own 8GB flash memory. When at home you can play Wii U and NX games on the big screen or off tv-mode. I see this device do much better than Wii U, but due to it still being powerpc (for backwards compabilty), so low third party support. Some streaming magic will even make playing NX and Wii U games you bought on the go a possibillity, with a good wifi network. This scenario embodies the best of handheld and console since you can litteraly play both and the memory of Gamepad 2 is ofcourse interchangable. Developers might even choose to make some games audienced for on the go against cheaper prices and full retail games for the NX at home.

I have said my toughts about the first scenario, what I would like to know from you guys is what do you think about the design of the second scenario and would it be able to do well alongside the twins.

It can be by beeing similar to the wii (attracting new group of gamers) of be that cheap and different (eg a handheld) so people might consider it as a ps4 co-system.

Otherhwise, no it cant. Not even with full third party support. Look at the xbox one, in my country it sells almost as bad as the wii u.