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What do you want for Pokémon Sun/Moon?

Alot more new pokémons 35 21.60%
 
More mega evolutions 8 4.94%
 
Higher difficulty 52 32.10%
 
Better Story 45 27.78%
 
Better Rivals 7 4.32%
 
Other 15 9.26%
 
Total:162
Einsam_Delphin said:
burninmylight said:

No, I'd rather breed for it myself than trade for it. It does not increase the value when, like I said, trading for battle-ready Pokemon is already extremely easy. I can go on GameFAQS to the XY/ORAS trade boards and request that someone with an Action Replay make me a certain battle-ready Pokemon, and have it in minutes. All the egg-hatching does it take time away from people like me, with no added challenge, or drive lazy people to hacking (again, go check out the trade boards on GFAQS). Egg-hatching encourages hacking and spreading around more hacked mons.

Saying it adds value by increasing time and effort is like saying that one quest in Skyward Sword where that bitch of a god made you hunt down those musical notes in the flooded Eldin Forest just so the developers could boast, "OVER 70 HOURS OF GAMEPLAY!". It's like an RPG that has bosses that don't do anything different or require any special strategies from normal random encounters, but you have to grind and grind and grind to reach a certain level to beat them. It would be like if Capcom put an hour long hallway in each stage of a Mega Man game where you do nothing but walk from left to right, just so it could say the game is eight hours longer than the previous one.

 

I shouldn't even need to say, it but Nintendo obviously doesn't factor in hacks and probably not even forums, atleast they certainly shouldn't, the game should be able to stand on it's own legs. So without all that, yes trading for an ideal Pokemon would generally be way easier and faster than breeding it yourself, hence it promotes trade. If everyone could easily and quickly breed whatever they wanted, there'd be less reason to trade, but I've said all this already. I'm not saying you have to like it, only that it's designed that way on purpose and it does do it's job.

I'd like to see your proof that the need to take thousands of steps to hatch eggs is what keeps the trading aspect of Pokemon alive. As opposed to things like completing the dex, shinies, or trading for Pokemon needed to breed your ideal mon yourself. 


As it is you can only hope the offerer isn't lying about it's moves, ability, IVs, or if you're making the offer that the trader will fully give you what you asked for. Language barrier makes these sorts of trades impossible with anyone who speaks a language you don't.


These are your words. Since trading for battle-ready Pokemon is a risky propisition in the GTS, and as you also said, Nintendo obviously doesn't factor in hacks and probably not even forums, I don't think the online trading aspect is hinging on the needless aspect of wasting everyone's time.



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burninmylight said:

I'd like to see your proof that the need to take thousands of steps to hatch eggs is what keeps the trading aspect of Pokemon alive. As opposed to things like completing the dex, shinies, or trading for Pokemon needed to breed your ideal mon yourself. 


As it is you can only hope the offerer isn't lying about it's moves, ability, IVs, or if you're making the offer that the trader will fully give you what you asked for. Language barrier makes these sorts of trades impossible with anyone who speaks a language you don't.


These are your words. Since trading for battle-ready Pokemon is a risky propisition in the GTS, and as you also said, Nintendo obviously doesn't factor in hacks and probably not even forums, I don't think the online trading aspect is hinging on the needless aspect of wasting everyone's time.

I don't need to prove something I never said. It just a factor, not the sole reason. The game's trading system is far from perfect, but I think that's mostly a flaw in execution, namely the GTS as explained already.



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Einsam_Delphin said:
burninmylight said:

I'd like to see your proof that the need to take thousands of steps to hatch eggs is what keeps the trading aspect of Pokemon alive. As opposed to things like completing the dex, shinies, or trading for Pokemon needed to breed your ideal mon yourself. 


As it is you can only hope the offerer isn't lying about it's moves, ability, IVs, or if you're making the offer that the trader will fully give you what you asked for. Language barrier makes these sorts of trades impossible with anyone who speaks a language you don't.


These are your words. Since trading for battle-ready Pokemon is a risky propisition in the GTS, and as you also said, Nintendo obviously doesn't factor in hacks and probably not even forums, I don't think the online trading aspect is hinging on the needless aspect of wasting everyone's time.

I don't need to prove something I never said. It just a factor, not the sole reason. The game's trading system is far from perfect, but I think that's mostly a flaw in execution, namely the GTS as explained already.

I don't think it's even so much as a factor. I think it's an outdated artifact from older games that a lot of people think should stay the same because that's the way it's always been, much like HMs. However, this debate seems to have reached it's limit, so we can respectfully agree to disagree.



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burninmylight said:

I don't think it's even so much as a factor. I think it's an outdated artifact from older games that a lot of people think should stay the same because that's the way it's always been, much like HMs. However, this debate seems to have reached it's limit, so we can respectfully agree to disagree.

Well we can agree that we'd rather it not be so tedious, no one likes riding around in circles for hours!