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DEAD_ORIGINAL said:
Chazore said:

And some mountain dew/doritos?.

Ha ha yeah.

Someone actually went there lol.



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Chazore said:
DEAD_ORIGINAL said:

Ha ha yeah.

Someone actually went there lol.

That tables tilting too much he needs more energy drinks than that.



Chazore said:
Jazz2K said:

In my case my PC is for work yes, is there a problem with that? Just because some people use it for gaming doesn't mean I have to do the same. Especially if it's on a work desk... I by no mean think it's solely for work, just that in my case that's what it is... 

People are weird with Microsoft making MS games on a MS platform selling them on MS store... really? Why would they sell their inhouse games elsewhere? Are you complaining for Sony and Nintendo making their games exclusively for their platforms? 

If RTS are made by MS then yes I understand they would be sold through Windoes Store but any other company is free to sell them anywhere on any platforms. 

Not saying there is a problem but a PC isn't just meant for just work, people that don't forcibily hold onto an old version of history are more or less in existence and make the current platform work well enough. Asking for a genre to twist itself for your platform is quite odd though.

Is it weird that other companies out there support more than a single store and OS?, what is objectively wrong or worse to support more people, more stores and OS's than the one?. What is wrong with wanting MS to support their previous two OS's let alone other users who don't want to play by their rules?, I've seen a lot of people throughout history that didn't go "take it or sod off", I have definitely seen the latter but the former exist and make it work, why does MS have to be the one who doesn't have to work to become the former?. I just see more praise for those that support multiple people vs supporting a single target group, you'd think more support for more people was better than supporting something that everyone isn't really in agreeance with.

That bolded part, I don't know what you're trying to get at with it because to me others supporting MS and other stores/OS's is objectively better than supporting just MS simply because the former desires to support more people. Supporting more people is really what MS wants but only if people adhere to their rules which at the end of the day everyone isn't going to do, not 7 billion at least. Surely you see the errors that come come with this? (not talking about what I said but more or les the errors of supporting and trying to dictate a small group vs adhering to the bigger populous).

Yess I'm well aware a PC isn't just for work. But like I said, in my case it's mostly for work. I also use it to make music, designs, some games, chat, skype and many more. Also a PC comes in the form of tablets or laptops you have as many choices as you want...

I'm not sure of what you,re trying to say here though. MS is a platform builder, a hardware builder, OS builder but they should release their games on the competition? So you want Sony and Nintendo games on other platforms? Is that it?



Jazz2K said:

Yess I'm well aware a PC isn't just for work. But like I said, in my case it's mostly for work. I also use it to make music, designs, some games, chat, skype and many more. Also a PC comes in the form of tablets or laptops you have as many choices as you want...

I'm not sure of what you,re trying to say here though. MS is a platform builder, a hardware builder, OS builder but they should release their games on the competition? So you want Sony and Nintendo games on other platforms? Is that it?

It's fine that you treat it for work, just as long as you acknowledge that it's not just meant for work. SOme of those can be called that but a tablet is technically still a tablet the way a phone will always be a phone.

What I'm trying to get at is the fact that others out there who get more money from supporting multiple OS's technically make for way better competition that MS. For years MS has had plenty of time to ramp up a single genre on PC and it wasted it all, just trying to come back now isn't going to suddenly win every single one of us over, why reward them when I can reward someone who gives me the time of day and doesn't tell me to jump through multiple hoops of theirs and at what time.

I don't get your inclusion of Sony and Nintendo since those two don't really have a thing for PC, I was actually reffering to Steam who actually support multiple OS's, who allow you to mod their games, play in offline mode and more. With MS it's get 10, get on the store or get out, you call it a right, I call it bad support and non caring. To me that's them telling you how to game, at least with Steam I can game on Mac, Linux, Steam OS, Windows 7 and all the way to 10 long with being able to mod those games. With MS I get zip of that, I have to go 10 and use their store and get absolutely none of what Steam offers me, why on earth should I reward and applaud them for giving me less options and telling me what to do?.

I know you like MS and all that but you have to admit that this whole "PC commitment" plan of theirs isn't about them supporting you out of genuine kindness, you must realise that they want to take that market back by brute force, not the "hells yeah, das what I'm talking about MS" kind.

The more RTS titles that support more OS's, the objeectively better, if MS doesn't want to play that game then that's their loss, the market will always provide for someone else like it has done for years.



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hershel_layton said:
Normchacho said:

As Zero said, the PS4 already supports K/M. It's just up to devs to implement it.

Is there any reason not to? I think they should go ahead and do it. Attract more PC fans.

 

I imagine it's because the vast majority of people who want to play a game using a keyboard and mouse are probably just going to play it on PC.



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Normchacho said:
hershel_layton said:

Is there any reason not to? I think they should go ahead and do it. Attract more PC fans.

 

I imagine it's because the vast majority of people who want to play a game using a keyboard and mouse are probably just going to play it on PC.

Yeah, but an extra feature for a minority isnt a bad thing.

Especially if it can be easily implemented anyhow.



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AlfredoTurkey said:
How will they stop mouse users from destroying controller users in FPS though? That's going to be an issue if they can't solve it.

You're presuming that will be an option.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Normchacho said:

 

I imagine it's because the vast majority of people who want to play a game using a keyboard and mouse are probably just going to play it on PC.

Yeah, but an extra feature for a minority isnt a bad thing.

Especially if it can be easily implemented anyhow.

I know, I'm not saying I agree with it, that just seems like why they haven't done it.



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barneystinson69 said:
Aeolus451 said:

How about we not do that. That phrase can be used with any of the big three and pc interchangeably. If they ban people for using it in a xbox thread then it would have to be used in all of them to be fair. It would lead to alot of stupid bans. 

Well then consider the situation at hand now. This has gone on for far to long in the xbox discussion. You don't see people on the Nintendo or Sony Discussions consitantely trying to squeeze these things in.

 Actually, it does happen. Plenty of people go into sony & nintendo discussions and say they don't like a game or a feature.  Which is fine and how it should be. Not everyone will like something and you can't just mute their voices just because it's disagreeable with some people. Criticism shouldn't been seen as trolling or as an attack as long as they explain their opinion. There shouldn't be any walled gardens. 



Aeolus451 said:
barneystinson69 said:

Well then consider the situation at hand now. This has gone on for far to long in the xbox discussion. You don't see people on the Nintendo or Sony Discussions consitantely trying to squeeze these things in.

 Actually, it does happen. Plenty of people go into sony & nintendo discussions and say they don't like a game or a feature.  Which is fine and how it should be. Not everyone will like something and you can't just mute their voices just because it's disagreeable with some people. Criticism shouldn't been seen as trolling or as an attack as long as they explain their opinion. There shouldn't be any walled gardens. 

Critism is acceptable, but what you're seeing here like this: "I'll keep my opinion to myself but I'm sure a few people will reflect my thoughts on this"

 

Its obvious the statement was a jab against xbox. This was already announced months ago, but with the present situation was only said now. I never stated I didn't want critism, but trying to stealth troll like this should be considered an offence. I'd say the exact same had it been in any other section of the forums as well.



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