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Who would win?

Cloud 96 42.29%
 
Shulk 131 57.71%
 
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JWeinCom said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

When you can control the fabric of space and time then yes, Sephiroth control the universe. "The Promised Land" Which grants Sephiroth unlimited mako power is pretty much God power. He bestroyed some planets, and cause a Supernova just for show. Now imagine if he was serious. The only reason why he didn't accomplished his goals is because he enjoys tormenting Cloud. His arrogance is his only weakness.

Even if Shulk wanted no more materia or no more Cloud, there is still Aerith supporting Cloud to negate and undo any harm on Cloud. She has proven to do this in the movie Advent Children.

... There's always one person willing to defend their character to the death in spite of all common sense and logic.  I admire your devotion.  

Do you have any evidence that unlimited Mako gives you the power to control space and time?  Can you show an example of Sephiroth doing either?  

If Sephiroth can control space and time, why is he summoning meteor again?  That seems like a grossly inefficient method of eliminating humanity.

The Supernove was just a fun animation to go with the attack, not to be taken seriously.  Unless you can explain how Sephiroth can destroy Pluto three times in the same battle XD.

Are you sure Sephiroth wasn't serious?  Cause he seemed REALLY serious at the end of the game.

 

Now, Shulk on the other hand, actually can control the universe.  And he actually shows it by recreating the universe as he sees fit.  Can you show Sephiroth doing anything on this level?  Not just speculation that he can, but somewhere where he ACTUALLY does it? 

Can you show that Aeries can bring back Cloud from non-existence XD.  I'm pretty sure you can't.

 

 

He can use Supernova and recreate whatever he destroyed again, and again just to show off power. DOHHHH. God right there.

Supernova, Destroying Planets, Creating Meteor out from nothing, Creating Clone Copies, Mind Control, Flying, boss battle inside another dimension? Sephiroth can create life!

We might see even more of what Sephiroth can do in FFVII REMAKE.

It's nice and all that you defend your character too, but when it comes to hard facts Cloud wins.

Let me get out of here before I turn into a real bad ass.



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deskpro2k3 said:
JWeinCom said:

... There's always one person willing to defend their character to the death in spite of all common sense and logic.  I admire your devotion.  

Do you have any evidence that unlimited Mako gives you the power to control space and time?  Can you show an example of Sephiroth doing either?  

If Sephiroth can control space and time, why is he summoning meteor again?  That seems like a grossly inefficient method of eliminating humanity.

The Supernove was just a fun animation to go with the attack, not to be taken seriously.  Unless you can explain how Sephiroth can destroy Pluto three times in the same battle XD.

Are you sure Sephiroth wasn't serious?  Cause he seemed REALLY serious at the end of the game.

 

Now, Shulk on the other hand, actually can control the universe.  And he actually shows it by recreating the universe as he sees fit.  Can you show Sephiroth doing anything on this level?  Not just speculation that he can, but somewhere where he ACTUALLY does it? 

Can you show that Aeries can bring back Cloud from non-existence XD.  I'm pretty sure you can't.

 

 

He can use Supernova and recreate whatever he destroyed again, and again just to show off power. DOHHHH. God right there.

Supernova, Destroying Planets, Creating Meteor out from nothing, Creating Clone Copies, Mind Control, Flying, boss battle inside another dimension? Sephiroth can create life!

We might see even more of what Sephiroth can do in FFVII REMAKE.

It's nice and all that you defend your character too, but when it comes to hard facts Cloud wins.

Let me get out of here before I turn into a real bad ass.

So... you're suggesting that when his final plan is coming into fruition and Sephiroth can contol all matter... He decides to use this power to summon a meteor, destroy planets, recreate them, summon another meteor, all while making sure not to kill Cloud because he wants to mess with him? @_@ 

Another villain comes to mind...

 

https://youtu.be/Gb428ySuFjA

 

"The only reason why he didn't accomplished his goals is because he enjoys tormenting Cloud."

Hmmmm... Cloud only beat Sephiroth because he was intentionally holding back... So you're saying that someone with control over time and space actually could beat Cloud if they were trying?  Someone like Shulk? Rofl.  



Superquagsire said:
SETTLE IT IN SMASH!!

It's still kinda unbelievable you can actually do this. And not only 1 on 1 but 4 Shulks vs 4 Clouds at the same time.



JWeinCom said:

So... you're suggesting that when his final plan is coming into fruition and Sephiroth can contol all matter... He decides to use this power to summon a meteor, destroy planets, recreate them, summon another meteor, all while making sure not to kill Cloud because he wants to mess with him? @_@ 

Hmmmm... Cloud only beat Sephiroth because he was intentionally holding back... So you're saying that someone with control over time and space actually could beat Cloud if they were trying?  Someone like Shulk? Rofl.  

 

I know you won't believe me, but the answer is yes.

Lets see how more awesome/omnipotent Sephiroth is gonna be in the Remake.



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deskpro2k3 said:
JWeinCom said:

So... you're suggesting that when his final plan is coming into fruition and Sephiroth can contol all matter... He decides to use this power to summon a meteor, destroy planets, recreate them, summon another meteor, all while making sure not to kill Cloud because he wants to mess with him? @_@ 

Hmmmm... Cloud only beat Sephiroth because he was intentionally holding back... So you're saying that someone with control over time and space actually could beat Cloud if they were trying?  Someone like Shulk? Rofl.  

 

I know you won't believe me, but the answer is yes.

Lets see how more awesome/omnipotent Sephiroth is gonna be in the Remake.

So you're saying Cloud can't actually beat Sephiroth if he was trying?  And that Sephiroth is retarded?



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JWeinCom said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

I know you won't believe me, but the answer is yes.

Lets see how more awesome/omnipotent Sephiroth is gonna be in the Remake.

So you're saying Cloud can't actually beat Sephiroth if he was trying?  And that Sephiroth is retarded?

 

I see why you're thinking that, but this is where I'm going to hit you with some knowledge.

Cloud is the only one that can defeat Sephiroth. Sephiroth himself said this in Dissidia. He wants to give Cloud dispair, more than death. If you look at Advent Children, just when Cloud is about to lose it all, he gets spiritual support from Aerith and Zack, and won. C'mon you can't beat that.



t3mporary_126 said:
Superquagsire said:
SETTLE IT IN SMASH!!

It's still kinda unbelievable you can actually do this. And not only 1 on 1 but 4 Shulks vs 4 Clouds at the same time.

Yeah thanks to SSB I feel like this disscusion is kinda useless. It's like the no.1 reason why Sakuria made SSB in the first place. 



deskpro2k3 said:
JWeinCom said:

So you're saying Cloud can't actually beat Sephiroth if he was trying?  And that Sephiroth is retarded?

 

I see why you're thinking that, but this is where I'm going to hit you with some knowledge.

Cloud is the only one that can defeat Sephiroth. Sephiroth himself said this in Dissidia. He wants to give Cloud dispair, more than death. If you look at Advent Children, just when Cloud is about to lose it all, he gets spiritual support from Aerith and Zack, and won. C'mon you can't beat that.

So basically, really Cloud cannot beat Sephiroth. Only when Sephiroth throws the fight did he stand a chance. 

In that case, Shulk even more FTW.