You speak like you have data pertaining to the Wii U, and you don't.

Everyone knows that we have sales data on this very site, and anyone can easily look at them so no use trying to pretend they don't exist and that they aren't what we've been talking about this whole time.

"My mistake for not directly pointing out your broken logic earlier. Comparing MP3 vs. DKCTF over MP3 vs. DKCR makes no sense as they released on different systems with a massively huge installbase difference. I've been saying the whole time that DK is bigger than Metroid as MP3 vs. DKCR has shown, so the only way to not know that is if you aren't paying attention."

"Didn't want to bring that up as a way for him to go off tangent, but yeah, outside of casual non gamer stuff, the types of games that do well on Nintendo systems hasn't changed with Wii U (for better or for worse), just the installbase is way smaller."

"The only Wii U numbers that matter are again, software sales vs. their Wii counterparts, as it shows how Metroid would fare if it did release. No duh the Wii U ain't no Wii, 90 million less users have prevented 2D & 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Smash, Wii something series, DKC, etc. from coming close to their predecessors. It would obviously be the same deal for Metroid, which would put it's numbers lower than DKCTF's who is on track to outsell MP3, despite you know, 90 freaking million. I can't stress that enough."

The first and last quote were even in a direct response to you. 

If thats what you think then so be it. I disagree with that. If the system was appealing to the same audience it would've sold in similar ammounts. We know that is clearly not the case. Therefore you obviously can't acess that it has the same type of audience except smaller. It makes no sense. It either appeals to a segment or it doesnt. We know for sure its not appealing to the same segments, so you obviously can't make those conclusions off the wii numbers.

It's not what I think, it's just what the data shows. I couldn't care less about who the system is appealing to, the fact is Wii U owners are buying games the same way they would on any Nintendo system as software sales indicate. Mario, Smash, Kart, Zelda, etc. are the top games on each system, be it Wii, 3DS, or Wii U.

Why people bought something doesn't matter in the end, since ultimately we cannot prove motive, only the end result.

Prime 2 sold pretty much the same amount as Jungle Beat, but more than Donkey Konga, GCN's second highest selling DK game.

If we combine the four by series we get 4.15m for Metroid, 2.49m for Donkey Kong.

That's not at all what I said but ok. I said its more family friendly. Which mattered alot for Wii. Your whole argument relies on Wii? GC Mp1 sold more than Wii MP3. What happened there? That should tell all you need to know about being family friendly on Wii. Theres nothing to address about Wii vs. WiiU counterparts. Metriod did do the opposite on GC vs. Wii though, thats pretty noteworthy. Now that I think about it, didn't dk jungle beat allow you to play with GC controller? It was also a 2d platformer. Sounds like we have a fair comparison then.

Oh god what a post here lol. Top games on Wii were the Wii series, what happened on WiiU? Theres your proof for different audience.

No need to waste your time, he's sticking to Wii for proof for a reason. GC doesn't line up with his argument lol.

Being more family friendly is part of why it's more appealing, duh. All that tells me is Metroid is really niche and uncared for, which is unfortunate. Certainly doesn't mean a higher installbase actually decreases sales, and lol at GC sales being more noteworthy and relevant for determining how a Wii U game would sell than actual Wii U sales trends. Oh, and the Gamecube never got a mainline DKC game, so you can stop with that nonsense.

If you just want to be delusional and pretend that the usual games aren't still up there aswell, then sure, totally different audience. What happened with the Wii U is the same thing that affects all games, it simply sold way less, hence less software sales. The Wii series was affected the most yes, but so to were all their core games, Metroid would be no exception.

There's a multi-quote button, use it instead of filling up the thread with useless post like these.

It matters very much when people buy it thinking it's going to be a Halo type shooter when it's something else as the point they're putting forward is that Metroid is niche, one of the top complaints about Prime at the time from people was the controls and how unaccessible it was because people were trying to play it like it was Halo, once they figured it isn't a shooter a fair number didn't return. Both DK games on GC required bongos to play from what I recall and only one of them was a platformer while the other was a rhythm game and even then they're not the type of games that DKTF, DKCR, DKC, DKC2 etc... are.

Metroid is destined to be stuck selling around 1.5m because you need such a specific taste to be into the series.