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AlfredoTurkey on 27 January 2016

This is a good thing. Sega let the US branch pull it's weight and it basically allowed them to beat Nintendo during the 16-bit era in that territory.



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PowerXXX on 27 January 2016
RolStoppable said:
Train wreck said:
RolStoppable said:

Then you probably also don't see a difference between "declining" and "dying".

I don't, both describe the Japanese dedicated market and Peyton Manning career right now.

Here's an example for "declining": Nintendo's handheld market this generation.
An example for "dying": Sony's handheld market this generation.

The notable difference is that only one of the two companies will make another handheld, hence why different terms are assigned to their respective performance.

This is only your opinion. Andrew House said that Vita's performance in Asia is very good. Also if Sony's handheld market is dying then Nintendo's console market with WiiU is already dead and buried and they shouldn't make a console again. 

Also i didn't know you work for Sony and you are so certain that there won't be a new portable.



Pavolink on 27 January 2016
PowerXXX said:
RolStoppable said:

People, the 3DS has sold about 20m units in five years which puts it ahead of every PlayStation system in history over a five year span. In the same timeframe, the 3DS had 20 games which sold 1m+ copies, tying it with the PlayStation 2's lifetime total.

Train wreck claimed that mobile is killing everything in Japan, but a short and simple fact check makes it clear that such a claim is completely false.

PS2 sold 22+ million in Japan.

Also you can't compare a home console with a handheld because othewise you should also compare a 3DS with an Iphone and it would get outsold by 1000:1

Why would you compare 3DS v iPhone other than for desperation?

 

CGI-Quality said:
PerturbedKitty said:
I don't think Japan cares much for Playstation either. I honestly don't blame them.

Help me understand...

1. You have a PlayStation game in your sig... ;P

2. If they don't care for PlayStation, and the PS4 outsells the Wii U on a typical basis, what does that say for Nintendo? and....

3. How did you draw such a conclusion to begin with?

That the Wii U is a failure and outselling it it's not a meassure of success.



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PowerXXX on 27 January 2016
RolStoppable said:
PowerXXX said:

This is only your opinion. Andrew House said that Vita's performance in Asia is very good. Also if Sony's handheld market is dying then Nintendo's console market with WiiU is already dead and buried and they shouldn't make a console again. 

Also i didn't know you work for Sony and you are so certain that there won't be a new portable.

You should be careful with trusting Andrew House.

Andrew House is A+ 

You should be careful with Reggie. Very, very careful. I still remember him saying that WiiU was out off stock everywhere at launch. Meanwhile in every shop there were tons of WiiU. Some shops still have some launch units.



ReimTime on 27 January 2016
PowerXXX said:
RolStoppable said:

It's not my fault that you failed to specify the conditions properly. What you said before is that the PS4 is the fastest selling console in history, meaning up to the current point in its life. That's obviously wrong.

 

Oh so you are saying that it doesn't matter that the PS4 had the biggest console launch ever.

It doesn't matter that the PS4 hit the 10 million mark faster than Wii.

It doesn't matter that the PS4 hit the 20 million mark faster than Wii.

What matters for you is that this exact moment we are talking Wii was ahead by 3 million. 

Ok. I am sure this makes you sleep very good at night. Now i feel bad about myself that i lost time discussing with someone like you. And by you i mean a person that favorites a specific company. 

I should have bailed out when i saw your bait comment. Despite being the first one that i called it, i took it. 

Never again.

 

Hey, uh, help me out here please.

You called Rol's comment bait and yet you willingly got reeled in lol. It wasn't even bait lol; saying there is "one Japanese manufacturer left" is nothing more than a good joke. He says this because Sony's HQ is moving to the USA, leaving NIntendo as the only "Japanese" console manufacturer. 

"Now i feel bad about myself that i lost time discussing with someone like you. And by you i mean a person that favorites a specific company."

From this I can infer that you are not favoriting Sony at all.

From what I've read all of Rol's points have been good and in no way inflammatory. I can back this up since he is trying to be on his best behavior for the next couple of days. You both agreed that the article wasn't perfect too.

Anyhow, PS4 is doing much better in North America than it is in Japan; this is especially true when comparing numbers with PS2 - which sold over 20 million LTD in Japan as you pointed out before. Does this mean Japan no longer matters to PlayStation? Of course not! I wouldn't say the reception was chilly either but yes if we look at the objective numbers Sony isn't seeing the same results as they did in other console iterations.

Have a joyous day



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PowerXXX on 27 January 2016
ReimTime said:
PowerXXX said:
RolStoppable said:

It's not my fault that you failed to specify the conditions properly. What you said before is that the PS4 is the fastest selling console in history, meaning up to the current point in its life. That's obviously wrong.

 

Oh so you are saying that it doesn't matter that the PS4 had the biggest console launch ever.

It doesn't matter that the PS4 hit the 10 million mark faster than Wii.

It doesn't matter that the PS4 hit the 20 million mark faster than Wii.

What matters for you is that this exact moment we are talking Wii was ahead by 3 million. 

Ok. I am sure this makes you sleep very good at night. Now i feel bad about myself that i lost time discussing with someone like you. And by you i mean a person that favorites a specific company. 

I should have bailed out when i saw your bait comment. Despite being the first one that i called it, i took it. 

Never again.

 

Hey, uh, help me out here please.

You called Rol's comment bait and yet you willingly got reeled in lol. It wasn't even bait lol; saying there is "one Japanese manufacturer left" is nothing more than a good joke. He says this because Sony's HQ is moving to the USA, leaving NIntendo as the only "Japanese" console manufacturer. 

"Now i feel bad about myself that i lost time discussing with someone like you. And by you i mean a person that favorites a specific company."

From this I can infer that you are not favoriting Sony at all.

From what I've read all of Rol's points have been good and in no way inflammatory. I can back this up since he is trying to be on his best behavior for the next couple of days. You both agreed that the article wasn't perfect too.

Anyhow, PS4 is doing much better in North America than it is in Japan; this is especially true when comparing numbers with PS2 - which sold over 20 million LTD in Japan as you pointed out before. Does this mean Japan no longer matters to PlayStation? Of course not! I wouldn't say the reception was chilly either but yes if we look at the objective numbers Sony isn't seeing the same results as they did in other console iterations.

Have a joyous day

 

Maybe you should read better.

1) I admit it myself that i took the bait. 

2) He admit it himself that what he wrote was a bait comment and said he was sorry about it. So don't try to defend him.

3) Read again Sony's announcement. One of the three HQ will be in Japan, Tokyo.

As for the rest, you are free to have your opinion like anyone else.

Have a joyous day.



PowerXXX on 27 January 2016
RolStoppable said:
PowerXXX said:

Andrew House is A+ 

You should be careful with Reggie. Very, very careful. I still remember him saying that WiiU was out off stock everywhere at launch. Meanwhile in every shop there were tons of WiiU. Some shops still have some launch units.

 

Out of curiosity, when will we move past the point where virtually every response of yours will be written from the angle that RolStoppable is a blind Nintendo fanboy and everything he says is ridiculously biased?

I never said that. I don't understand why you are getting this impression from my writing

:(





Pavolink on 27 January 2016
POE said:
Sony is losing in japan. So japan doesnt matter. Egocentric logic.

Even more when the last gen PSP and PS3 were fiercy competitors. But now magically it doesn't matter.



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ReimTime on 27 January 2016
PowerXXX said:
ReimTime said:

 

Hey, uh, help me out here please.

You called Rol's comment bait and yet you willingly got reeled in lol. It wasn't even bait lol; saying there is "one Japanese manufacturer left" is nothing more than a good joke. He says this because Sony's HQ is moving to the USA, leaving NIntendo as the only "Japanese" console manufacturer. 

"Now i feel bad about myself that i lost time discussing with someone like you. And by you i mean a person that favorites a specific company."

From this I can infer that you are not favoriting Sony at all.

From what I've read all of Rol's points have been good and in no way inflammatory. I can back this up since he is trying to be on his best behavior for the next couple of days. You both agreed that the article wasn't perfect too.

Anyhow, PS4 is doing much better in North America than it is in Japan; this is especially true when comparing numbers with PS2 - which sold over 20 million LTD in Japan as you pointed out before. Does this mean Japan no longer matters to PlayStation? Of course not! I wouldn't say the reception was chilly either but yes if we look at the objective numbers Sony isn't seeing the same results as they did in other console iterations.

Have a joyous day

 

Maybe you should read better.

1) I admit it myself that i took the bait. 

2) He admit it himself that what he wrote was a bait comment and said he was sorry about it. So don't try to defend him.

3) Read again Sony's announcement. One of the three HQ will be in Japan, Tokyo.

As for the rest, you are free to have your opinion like anyone else.

Have a joyous day.

 

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I'm glad you centred your point on the reading comprehension. I'm browsing VGC on my 3DS and the screen is so damn small. It's 240p too so sometimes I get words mixed up. For instance this entire time I thought you actually wanted to prove your point; unfortunately you chose to fart into a soup can and call it Mozart

Thank you for giving me permission to have my own opinion. In return I wish your Amygdala the best of luck in figuring out how to release Dopamine properly.

I wholeheartedly hope this isn't Miguel trying to get me and Rol to slip up





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PowerXXX on 27 January 2016
ReimTime said:
PowerXXX said:

 

Maybe you should read better.

1) I admit it myself that i took the bait. 

2) He admit it himself that what he wrote was a bait comment and said he was sorry about it. So don't try to defend him.

3) Read again Sony's announcement. One of the three HQ will be in Japan, Tokyo.

As for the rest, you are free to have your opinion like anyone else.

Have a joyous day.

 

*sigh* What's the point of welcoming new users here if they don't intend on staying long

I'm glad you centred your point on the reading comprehension. I'm browsing VGC on my 3DS and the screen is so damn small. It's 240p too so sometimes I get words mixed up. For instance this entire time I thought you actually wanted to prove your point; unfortunately you chose to fart into a soup can and call it Mozart

Thank you for giving me permission to have my own opinion. In return I wish your Amygdala the best of luck in figuring out how to release Dopamine properly.

I wholeheartedly hope this isn't Miguel trying to get me and Rol to slip up

 

Did you got offended only because i proved you wrong lol? It's not my fault if you don't read the official announcements and spread lies like Sony's HQ leaving Japan for USA when the announcement specifically says that one of three HQ will be in Japan. 

Maybe you should say that you were wrong and stop acting like this.