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Ka-pi96 said:
OneKartVita said:

It is a different console because it can play games (well 1 game I think)  that the other console can't.  

Just like the PSVR although that will have many exclusives to it or exclusive to VR consoles. 

Doesn't really matter that it has some exclusive games, it's still a 3DS. Same with the DSi. That had some exclusive games but it's still a DS.



 

No its not a 3ds.  It's a new 3DS. Saying that is liking saying a ps3 that's backwards compatible with ps2 isn't a different console.  

 

N3ds is a shit comparison because exclusive games for it never took off but PSVR will have plenty of exclusives.  



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Player2 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Player2 said:

By that logic fat PS2 is a different console than slim PS2 because slim can't play at least one game (Final Fantasy XI) and therefore it isn't the best selling home console of all time. Hey, I like where this is going.

Is that actually true? Crazy fact if it is! 

It is. You need the PS2's HDD (the game must be installed) to play it and PS2 slim isn't compatible with it.

You could say that it would be similar to DS-DSi and 3DS-N3DS, that are different but counted together... PS3 original and without BC would be the same. But them will we add PSVR sales to PS4 numbers?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

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DonFerrari said:

You could say that it would be similar to DS-DSi and 3DS-N3DS, that are different but counted together... PS3 original and without BC would be the same. But them will we add PSVR sales to PS4 numbers?

 

Why? Were Kinect sales added to the Xbox 360 numbers? If they were, then yeah, go ahead. If not, then what's the point?



Guys I know it was funny, but we really have to say and accept how wrong zero is with his opinion.



Wright said:
DonFerrari said:

You could say that it would be similar to DS-DSi and 3DS-N3DS, that are different but counted together... PS3 original and without BC would be the same. But them will we add PSVR sales to PS4 numbers?

Why? Were Kinect sales added to the Xbox 360 numbers? If they were, then yeah, go ahead. If not, then what's the point?

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Ka-pi96 said:
DonFerrari said:
Player2 said:

It is. You need the PS2's HDD (the game must be installed) to play it and PS2 slim isn't compatible with it.

You could say that it would be similar to DS-DSi and 3DS-N3DS, that are different but counted together... PS3 original and without BC would be the same. But them will we add PSVR sales to PS4 numbers?

No, why would we? It can't even play PS4 games. We didn't add Kinect sales to Xbox 360 numbers so why would this be any different?

The guy wanted to separate PS2 and slim sales because of FF XI not being compatible. I said that using his logic if we keep together should we add PSVR to PS4 sales... just to show that it was a silly point.

 

N3DS and DSi were made with improvements to allow for different games that 3DS and DS couldn't play, they are a different console even if we put them together because they are too similar.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:

The guy wanted to separate PS2 and slim sales because of FF XI not being compatible. I said that using his logic if we keep together should we add PSVR to PS4 sales... just to show that it was a silly point.

N3DS and DSi were made with improvements to allow for different games that 3DS and DS couldn't play, they are a different console even if we put them together because they are too similar.

 

The problem here is that you're refusing to accept his logic using an example following that train of thought, only to dismiss what he said and keep trying to say that DSi is a different console than the DS.

So either you use an example that doesn't follow his train of thought, and effectively render his point moot, or you can't keep saying that N3DS and DSi are separated consoles from the 3DS and DS by taking down his logic using his case-scenario, which doesn't help yours.

 

Besides, Nintendo themselves merge 3DS and N3DS sales (just like they merge DS and DSi sales) because they obviously don't count it as a new console, but a revised model of an existent model.



Of course not, OP. You still need a PS4 to be able to play. It's like saying Move was it's own gaming device.



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Thespiralmatrix said:
Was the sega 32x considered a console or an attachment?

The same categorization would apply to PSVR.

 

both. 

 

"Codenamed "Project Mars", the 32X was designed to expand the power of the Genesis and serve as a transitional console into the 32-bit erauntil the release of the Sega Saturn."

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sega_32X

 

and as the 32x the PS VR has its own library. games solely ment for the device or games with vr support.

 

the conclusion, PS VR is its own plattform. and i say plattform, not gaming plattform, because it isnt ment for games only and will have non-gaming content.



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Here is my take. The PSVR as a device is just another peripheral. It does nothing in the same context as a Kinect or Move. What I mean by this is that Kinect and Move have games where if you do not have the device you can still play those games. Kinect and Move also have games where you cannot play those games without those devices. PSVR will have the same thing. It will have games where if you do not have the device they will still work and it will have it own games.

What will make PSVR is own platform is how Sony develop for the hardware. Sony is creating a new division that will totally be dedicated to the device and making games for the device. Sony is making a statement and commitment to PSVR as a new platform internally compared to how they treated the Move.

To sum it up, the PSVR hardware is just another peripheral, it will be how dedicated Sony is to that hardware and building it as a new gaming platform on the PS systems that will be the key.



Yeah PSVR sales can't be added to ps4 sales because it's a different console. Their sales will be counted separately.