By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General Discussion - German Imam blames Cologne Rape Victims cause "they wore perfume"

Scoobes said:
He's a Salafist which is an ultra conservative group within Islam.

It's not unexpected for him to come out with this bullshit. Best thing to do is not give idiots like this a platform to spread their stupid ideas.

 


So you're gonna ignore it because of reasons?

Silence is what keeps the bullies motivated to do it all over again and again and again.

Best thing to do is expose them.



Around the Network
kurasakiichimaru said:
"in an interview on Russian TV, according to Breitbart."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/206828

 

Israelnationalnews.com is Arutz Sheva, a right-wing, nationalist "religious zionist" paper in Israel. They're referencing Breitbart, an ultra-right-wing source in America that is itself supposedly referencing an interview on Russian TV. And this is about a German Imam...

You have to start asking questions when such a combination happens. You can't take things as fact when they can't even directly quote the supposed source, but instead have to quote someone who is supposedly quoting the source.

Breitbart has invented stories from whole cloth, so to speak, before - for instance, look up the "Friends of Hamas" story, where Breitbart asserted that Chuck Hagel was paid to speak in front of a group called "Friends of Hamas". It turns out that no such group exists. They had heard a sarcastic comment by a reporter, asking it as a way to say "what has Hagel done that is anti-Israel, anyway?", and that was all it took for them to create an entire story.

 

Which isn't to say that this is a fake story. What it does say is that you need to be more careful about your own sourcing. Sources that have ongoing, well-known biases shouldn't be trusted when they're talking about a topic that aligns with that bias. So I found a more trustworthy source, one that provides all of the information, rather than just the bit that casts things the way they want them cast.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/cologne-sex-attacks-imam-claims-women-wearing-perfume-provoked-360-assaults-by-north-africans-1539509

International Business Times is much more reputable than either Arutz Sheva or Breitbart, especially when it comes to topics connecting to Islam. And when you read *their* article, you learn much more than you did reading that trash you linked to.

The Imam wasn't saying it was the victim's fault. He was explaining what prompted the action. Kind of like how you can say that a serial killer targetted their victim because of something they wore, without actually saying the victim was to blame. The Imam was quite clear in the follow-up interview (from the IBTimes article): "There were women scantily clad women who were wearing perfume as they walked through the drunken crowd. For some North Africans, this was reason to grope the women. That doesn't mean that I think women shouldn't be allowed to dress like that. Everyone has to accept that. And if they don't agree, they need to go to another country. That's the truth."

It's the difference between explaining and justifying.



Humanity

Never Fails to Amaze

Rofl!



Blame the appearance. How cliché...

And the worst part is this line of thinking isn't exactly uncommon.



I'm hoping Europeans wake up, because this is getting embarrassing.



Around the Network
Lafiel said:
JRPGfan said:
Its not about race... so this isnt racism.
Its just our cultures are so differnt, too differnt.

Too many muslims in europe, with values too differnt from our own.
You cant just rape women, and say its okay because they wore perfume.

Cant really blame people if they dont want muslims in their country if they act like this.

but you should be aware, that this is coming from a Salafist

Salafist/Wahhabi sects are the absolute most extreme conservative form of Islam there is - it's extremely literal, funnily enough much much more literal than how Islam was interpreted during the first hundreds of years of the existence of the religion

looking at them and saying "this is how Muslims think" is the equivalent of looking at the Westboro Baptist Church and saying "this is how Christians think" (and if you don't know them look that shit up)

what is reason for concern is that Saudi-Arabia is Wahhabi and due to them occupying Islams holy cities Mecca and Medina their ultra conservative Islam is gaining traction in the world and SA also finances lots and lots of Mosques preaching this type of Islam in many countries to help it expand

Another reason for concern is that Islam is an extremely popular religion. Not all Muslims need to subscribe to the wahabists ideology for it to become a problem (isn't it already?)



Some women would say catcalling is a form of sexual harassment/assault. I don't know exactly what took place there but this happens everywhere, and most of the time it is blamed on what they're wearing.

The rapes on the other hand is a serious issue though, they need to get cought and put in jail, but for catcalling oh please. Expect catcalling if you wear a mini skirt with some asscheek hanging out lol.



CPU: Ryzen 7950X
GPU: MSI 4090 SUPRIM X 24G
Motherboard: MSI MEG X670E GODLIKE
RAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR PLATINUM 32GB DDR5
SSD: Kingston FURY Renegade 4TB
Gaming Console: PLAYSTATION 5

That guy is a salafist, one of the most extreme fringe groups of islam.
It's comparable to the westboro baptist church nutters.
Of course he spouts nonsense.



Lafiel said:
JRPGfan said:
Its not about race... so this isnt racism.
Its just our cultures are so differnt, too differnt.

Too many muslims in europe, with values too differnt from our own.
You cant just rape women, and say its okay because they wore perfume.

Cant really blame people if they dont want muslims in their country if they act like this.

but you should be aware, that this is coming from a Salafist

Salafist/Wahhabi sects are the absolute most extreme conservative form of Islam there is - it's extremely literal, funnily enough much much more literal than how Islam was interpreted during the first hundreds of years of the existence of the religion

looking at them and saying "this is how Muslims think" is the equivalent of looking at the Westboro Baptist Church and saying "this is how Christians think" (and if you don't know them look that shit up)

what is reason for concern is that Saudi-Arabia is Wahhabi and due to them occupying Islams holy cities Mecca and Medina their ultra conservative Islam is gaining traction in the world and SA also finances lots and lots of Mosques preaching this type of Islam in many countries to help it expand

True but whos supporting, arming and trading with Saudi Arabia? its Merkels goverment.





he is retarded