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famousringo on 22 March 2008

Edward did pretty well by me.

Meg, on the other hand, was total dead weight.

The fact is that there is a lot of room for randomness from one game to another. On one playthrough, a character can be an anemic pussy, the next playthrough s/he transforms into a ruthless God of death. Give characters a little time and attention to see if they turn into treasure or trash, rather than prejudging them based on starting stats and leveling odds.



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Words Of Wisdom on 22 March 2008
ookaze said:
Don't listen to these people.
Obviously, people that say a character is bad because of this or that stat are just people that fail at SRPG.
I realized that most vocal people about FE games actually don't know how to use even basic tactic and strategy, and end up getting destroyed because they only know about brute force.
I've recently watched someone play RD on YouTube, the first chapter, and two things were obvious : he was playing on easy, thank god, as he was making stupid moves upon stupid moves. Even in normal made, he would have been wiped out.

Usually, when someone tells you a unit is shit because of some stat, that's because he fails at SRPG.
Like in PoR, where I heard how useless Mist is, yet I never got a problem leveling her.
I started RD on normal just to see, and I tried a casual style of play like in the video I saw : I was wiped out. Now, playing like I'm used to play, no difficulty at all.
RD is far less forgiving for tactic AND strategic errors, so I understand why people say it's so hard.
This is understandable, when you try to trade off using your brain for brute force.
I bet I will have no problem even with Micaiah units, but I haven't played enough to know yet.

Perhaps you honestly don't know what you're talking about.  ANY UNIT can be made decent in Radiant Dawn.  The unit's late-game stats are not the real key factors here.  The real important points are:

1)  Is the unit easy to level?  Is this a unit that I can send into the thick of battle and begin OHKO'ing opponents or is this a unit that needs babying and protection?

2)  How long is this unit available for?  It doesn't matter how great a unit is or could be if it's available only for a few chapters.

3)  Does the unit have Earth affinity?  Two Earth affinity characters supporting one another are nigh-unstoppable.

 

Edward is not that easy to level early on.  The only easy character to level in Micaiah's troupe is Micaiah.  Edward is available for 16 chapters, Zihark is available for 13 at most (11 at worst), Lucia is available for 4 chapters, and Mia is available for 14 chapters.  Edward seems to be in the lead but unless you favor him strongly in those first 10 chapters, he'll only be 20/1 at best by the time you see him again.  Meanwhile, Zihark has a lot of the later levels to gain a level advantage over Edward. And finally, there's affininity.  Zihark has Earth and Edward has Light.  +7.5 avoid > +0.5 Defense/+2.5 Accuracy

Zihark wins.



darconi on 22 March 2008

You know that your experiences could be radically different from other people. That's the beauty and curse of the RNG system. If you get too RNG screwed on level up then you could have a great growth potential character cut down and vice versa.

My personal experience was that Mia and Zihark were just much better. That you can now move around and trade their skills though kinda put a damper on them because Zihark's adept just rocks sometimes. During one of my battle, I gave Zihark a brave sword for a 2x attack, he got a natural 2x from speed and his Adept triggered twice in that one battle for a 6 hit attack. He was also critting and Astra'ing all over the place that level so it was just insane. Mia would've been awesome...if they didn't nerf her ability to have first strike. Swordmasters are fragile enough to begin with and that didn't help at all.



Words Of Wisdom on 22 March 2008
darconi said:
You know that your experiences could be radically different from other people. That's the beauty and curse of the RNG system. If you get too RNG screwed on level up then you could have a great growth potential character cut down and vice versa.

My personal experience was that Mia and Zihark were just much better. That you can now move around and trade their skills though kinda put a damper on them because Zihark's adept just rocks sometimes. During one of my battle, I gave Zihark a brave sword for a 2x attack, he got a natural 2x from speed and his Adept triggered twice in that one battle for a 6 hit attack. He was also critting and Astra'ing all over the place that level so it was just insane. Mia would've been awesome...if they didn't nerf her ability to have first strike. Swordmasters are fragile enough to begin with and that didn't help at all.

Personal experience means nothing in Fire Emblem.



Phoenix_Wiight on 22 March 2008

my fire emblem theory- every character can come out good if you train them the right way, some just are easier to make good.

but, edward does come out really good, easily.



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BengaBenga on 22 March 2008

My Edward is OK; but I like Zihark a lot more. Especially with a killing edge he`s almost unstoppable. I never use more than one swordsman, though.

I agree that anyone can be levelled, but I really hate Meg and Fiona. After WoW tip I restarted using Astrid and she´s ok, but still too fragile. I don`t really like liabilities.

Question: I gained 10.000 BEXP in the castle of Felirae level, anyone more?



gebx on 22 March 2008
darconi said:
You know that your experiences could be radically different from other people. That's the beauty and curse of the RNG system. If you get too RNG screwed on level up then you could have a great growth potential character cut down and vice versa.

My personal experience was that Mia and Zihark were just much better. That you can now move around and trade their skills though kinda put a damper on them because Zihark's adept just rocks sometimes. During one of my battle, I gave Zihark a brave sword for a 2x attack, he got a natural 2x from speed and his Adept triggered twice in that one battle for a 6 hit attack. He was also critting and Astra'ing all over the place that level so it was just insane. Mia would've been awesome...if they didn't nerf her ability to have first strike. Swordmasters are fragile enough to begin with and that didn't help at all.

Who did you have to hit 6 times to kill??

 



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darconi on 22 March 2008
gebx said:
darconi said:
You know that your experiences could be radically different from other people. That's the beauty and curse of the RNG system. If you get too RNG screwed on level up then you could have a great growth potential character cut down and vice versa.

My personal experience was that Mia and Zihark were just much better. That you can now move around and trade their skills though kinda put a damper on them because Zihark's adept just rocks sometimes. During one of my battle, I gave Zihark a brave sword for a 2x attack, he got a natural 2x from speed and his Adept triggered twice in that one battle for a 6 hit attack. He was also critting and Astra'ing all over the place that level so it was just insane. Mia would've been awesome...if they didn't nerf her ability to have first strike. Swordmasters are fragile enough to begin with and that didn't help at all.

Who did you have to hit 6 times to kill??

 


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ZaP~ on 22 March 2008

@WOW Yeah, the Earth affinity makes Zihark great, but in the half of the chapters it appears he is a jeigan, and just ate all the exp you can get...and its base stats aren't quite good for a 2nd class
http://serenesforest.net/fe10/char_base.html

On topic also Edward gets a Sword only for him that adds a lot of luck, so his Crits went up to the sky
In my game Zihark has a little bit better stats than Edward...and Edward was at about 15....so 7 levels + class change may help him a lot...the only cons i see are the earth affinity and that is hard to level up. Even through, when i came at part 3, my Mia capped all of her status, so i choose her for the final chapters



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Words Of Wisdom on 22 March 2008
ZaP~ said:
@WOW Yeah, the Earth affinity makes Zihark great, but in the half of the chapters it appears he is a jeigan, and just ate all the exp you can get...and its base stats aren't quite good for a 2nd class
http://serenesforest.net/fe10/char_base.html


I'm not sure where you get half from when the actual number is 4 of 11/13.

And I don't think you actually know what a "Jeigan" is.  A Jeigan character is a prepromoted unit that not only sucks experience, but also has poor growths and ends really poorly.  Zihark turns out really well.  There is no Jeigan-type character in Radiant Dawn.