There's nothing complicated about showing a system and releasing it in the same year. 

So you saying 3 weeks made huge difference and those 3 weeks are reason why TP port on Wii is so successful!?

Going from 60 million NES owners to 22 million Gamecube owners isn't "people leaving"?

What relam of fantasy? If I'm Nintendo I'm saving the next Animal Crossing for the next portable, whatever it is. The sales data overwhelmingly supports such a move, not doing so likely would cost Nintendo millions of dollars. 

This isn't a fantasy land where business performance has no bearing on game releases and that a company is making games because they're your friend or something ... real life doesn't work like that. 

This is a business, a cold, hard business, do not ever allow emotion to cloud that fact. 

It was a great business practice if we're talking strictly from a business POV. 

Nobody outside of you and 100 people at most will be pissed.

That post is full of misconceptions. 

wow. my post has misconceptions? lol. let me correct all of yours real quick.

Firstly, the Dreamcast was replaced when it was selling for a lot, and remember that the Wii U has been performing worse than the Dreamcast.

dreamcast wasnt selling a lot. it sold like 10 million in what? two years? it was discontined because they werent making the money they needed to off of the software because of piracy. 

Secondly, Nintendo are not making money off of the Wii U. The R&D it would have taken to make it, as well as expected projections have all gone to hell. Nintendo will not have broken even on it, and more to the point, they would have made more money through general investment, which means the Wii U, as a business venture, has been a complete failure. 

nintendo is making money off the wii u. 

Thirdly, Nintendo isn't showing incredbile support for the Wii U, they are just doing damage control, releasing the bare minimum amount of first party games needed to keep the die hard fans in the Nintendo camp. It's merely doing the minimum possible of what the original business plan would have been.

i never said nintendo is showing incredible support. theyre supporting the software that is already out very well, but the hardware is a different story. 

Therefore it makes sense for them to bring out a replacement as soon as possible because they are not making money from it. 

no, thats ridiculous.

I know my opinion doesn't mean shit. You're kidding yourself if you think yours does. 

I've been following Nintendo for 25 years. They do whatever the fuck they want to do, often times at complete odds with whatever their fanbase wants. 

The fact is Wii U fans on this board have been wrong about 5000 different things this gen (Wii U is going to be a big success! Uh, no. Wii U is going to be almost as powerful as a PS4 or at least XB1! Uh, no. Wii U sales will explode after Mario 3D World and Mario Kart come out. Uh, no. Wii U will get a real Animal Crossing for 100% sure! Uh, no.) anyway so claiming massive confidence when I doubt you predicted any of this gen going this badly for Nintendo in the first place doesn't mean a whole lot. 

Mhm...

Selling people hardware that is going to be supported with software for years to come is short term thinking while trying to sell people hardware that will have seen its final release is all about the long term.

its not about selling the hardware at this point, its about maintaining consumer confidence. nintendo has to ride the wave that they themselves created and support this platform. so far, that is what they have been doing and they've done a pretty good job at it. would you rather nintendo have treated this like the saturn?  "nintendo needs to replace it as fast as possible." yeah.. that sounds like a great strategy for the long term lol. 

Then take a game that a lot of the userbase of the Wii U was looking forward to, and make a better version for the next console... Because fuck you guys. Lol. Great business strategy. No angry people there.

I'm pretty sure the Wii U has outsold the DC in total units. Also, the DC was rampant with piracy, not many games got to the 1m mark. That isnt the case with the Wii U.

Nintendo IS making money off the Wii U. Have you looked at the price? Also, games like Mario Maker, Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bro's, amiibo's have been making them alot of money.

Nintendo isnt showing support for anything since Iwata passed away and we started having hardly any directs. This does not mean it doesn't exist.

Therefore, if it does come out, its not because of those reason, but likelihood is it won't. Also... because the president himself said it... haha... but i know we are supposed to selectively choose our quotes to make an 2016 homr console NX claim.

Firstly, sales were not mentioned. The Wii U has sold just a bit better than the Dreamcast in total units, but has done so at a much slower pace in s significantly larger market. Therefore it is unquestionable that the Wii U has performed worse in the market. 

sales were mentioned. you mentioned sales. you said DC was selling a lot. it wasn't. not that it matters, but you're saying sales weren't mentioned, but they were. 

You can't just deny what I said about the Wii U not making money without any sort of rebuttal. The price will not cover R&D when you factor in (it's obvious that you're not) shipping and manufacturing costs on top of the retailers cut. The business plan we know as a fact had much, much higher projections and therefore the costs almost certainly will not be covered by falling spectacularly door l short of their initial estimations. 

the wii u is indeed making nintendo money. nintendo is making money on every console sold. in fact, that is something that was discussed extensively within the first 100 replies of this thread. thats not even taking account software sales. a lot of wii u games have sold a shit ton of copies and nintendo makes a lot of money off their first party games. and i mean A LOT of money (4 million copies sold of Smash makes a lot more money than 4 million copies sold of Uncharted for example). 

sure, they had higher projections, but that doesnt mean they had to reach those goals to make money. nintendo is very good at making money, and if they met their high projections, then we would probably be looking at wii-like profits, which is just crazy. you dont have to sell 100m consoles to be profitable. 

You fail to grasp what I mean by support. You talk of it as if a company wants to be friendly. That's not how it works. Support is merely the post product launch plan. There will be a plan that they are following and you'll find that they will be scaling back on all support due to it not being financially viable. 

sigh.. it is financially viable. if they replace it now, theyre going to miss out on a years worth of money they can still get from it. they already spent the R&D, so from a business perspective, they might as well use the wii u for what its worth. the wii u isnt a money pit that is losing them anything. theyre better off taking their time to ensure a successful launch of their next system and ride out whatever the wii u has left in it. there is still easy money to be made in the wii u. 

I recommend that you Google business plans as it will help you understand what I'm talking about and why the Wii U will be seen by Nintendo as an unquestionable disaster, hence why a replacement sooner rather than later is in their best interest. 

no, no, no. replacing it sooner rather than later is not the answer. that is a really shortsighted view of things.