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Forums - Sales Discussion - December 2015 NPD Thread! PS4 and XBO exclusives LTD up!

barneystinson69 on 17 January 2016
DonFerrari said:
barneystinson69 said:

Just wondering, anything on Halo 5 LTD in the US?

13# on the year rank and 10# for releases of 2015 so you can do your math.

 

13? That isn't a good sign. It was also a bit under FIFA 16, which did 630k. So 500k for December is probably the case. In that case, vgchartz is overtracking Halo 5 in the US by around 100k. Not bad.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

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DonFerrari on 17 January 2016
barneystinson69 said:
DonFerrari said:
barneystinson69 said:

Just wondering, anything on Halo 5 LTD in the US?

13# on the year rank and 10# for releases of 2015 so you can do your math.

13? That isn't a good sign. It was also a bit under FIFA 16, which did 630k. So 500k for December is probably the case. In that case, vgchartz is overtracking Halo 5 in the US by around 100k. Not bad.

Well, I don't have the numbers with me... but perhaps Shadow or Boutros could help you.



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GribbleGrunger on 17 January 2016
Shadow1980 said:

My estimates are conservative guesses. The year just started, and I don't feel comfortable making guesses for the whole year until we at least complete the first quarter, that way I can extrapolate from historical patterns of the usual portions each quarter represents for the yearly totals.

I just guess :)





 

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binary solo on 17 January 2016

Seems likely to me that if PS4 spanks Xb one in Q1 then MS will make a price move in Q2, and this will prevent PS4 from building up a 1 million + lead for the year. Though who knows, if MS only puts a $50 gap between the consoles that might not have as big of an effect as they hope. Uncharted aside, which I'm sure will be great and huge, several 2016 games for PS4 are big promises that need to deliver. If most of them turn out to be like Knack and The Order then all of a sudden 2016 doesn't look as great as what people are hoping. Quantity-wise it;s the same, but quality is the key to have a huge year that's backed up by more than just the usual 3rd party offerings.



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Boutros on 17 January 2016

XBO LTD:

Halo 5: Guardians - ~1.699m
Forza Motorsport 6 - ~451k
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - ~371k
Rise of the Tomb Raider - ~345k
Rare Replay - ~239k
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition - ~81k

PS4 LTD:

Bloodborne - ~754k
MLB 15: The Show - ~626k
The Order: 1886 - ~357
Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection - ~259k
Until Dawn - ~330k
God of War III Remastered - ~162k
Tearaway Unfolded - ~24k



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barneystinson69 on 17 January 2016
Boutros said:

XBO LTD:

Halo 5: Guardians - ~1.699m
Forza Motorsport 6 - ~451k
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - ~371k
Rise of the Tomb Raider - ~345k
Rare Replay - ~239k
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition - ~81k

PS4 LTD:

Bloodborne - ~754k
MLB 15: The Show - ~626k
The Order: 1886 - ~357
Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection - ~259k
Until Dawn - ~330k
God of War III Remastered - ~162k
Tearaway Unfolded - ~24k

 

Just proves my point that most of the sales were bundle's, how vgchartz just track with bundle's (its why Halo 5 seems a bit high as well) and how it did nowhere near Halo 5. Also Rare Replay did 239k without bundle's? Holy crap! Probably over 500k WW! Proves Rare game can sell if they're done right! Bloodborne also did great, Tearaway was a full blown flop, ROTR is around 400k with the 360, so it probably did well outside the US, and probably had some sales digitally.  Forza 6 is ok as well, certainly over 1 million by now. Gears of War was meh, though I am surprised it beat Uncharted. 

Halo 5 is doing ok. Probably around 3.5-4 million with digital WW. Not wow wow, but its not total flop.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

SWORDF1SH on 17 January 2016
barneystinson69 said:

 

Just proves my point that most of the sales were bundle's, how vgchartz just track with bundle's (its why Halo 5 seems a bit high as well) and how it did nowhere near Halo 5. Also Rare Replay did 239k without bundle's? Holy crap! Probably over 500k WW! Proves Rare game can sell if they're done right! Bloodborne also did great, Tearaway was a full blown flop, ROTR is around 400k with the 360, so it probably did well outside the US, and probably had some sales digitally.  Forza 6 is ok as well, certainly over 1 million by now. Gears of War was meh, though I am surprised it beat Uncharted. 

Halo 5 is doing ok. Probably around 3.5-4 million with digital WW. Not wow wow, but its not total flop.

Did anybody doubt that? I mean it's pretty obvious because it was the only bundle on offer on BF. Plus for that very reason it's also going to have an affect on non-bundle NDC sales.





Boutros on 17 January 2016

Third-party games sales; 2015 games only; LTD; no bundles:

Over 3 million (PS4 = 1, XBO = 1)
Between 2 and 3 million (PS4 = 0, XBO = 0)
Between 1.5 and 2 million (PS4 = 2, XBO = 1)
Between 1 and 1.5 million (PS4 = 4, XBO = 3)
Between 500k and 1 million (PS4 = 8, XBO = 9)
Between 200k and 500k million (PS4 = 12, XBO = 12, Wii U = 3)
Between 100k and 200k (PS4 = 11, XBO = 9, Wii U = 2)
Between 10k and 100k (PS4 = 70, XBO = 54, Wii U = 9)



tbone51 on 17 January 2016
Boutros said:

XBO LTD:

Halo 5: Guardians - ~1.699m
Forza Motorsport 6 - ~451k
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - ~371k
Rise of the Tomb Raider - ~345k
Rare Replay - ~239k
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition - ~81k

PS4 LTD:

Bloodborne - ~754k
MLB 15: The Show - ~626k
The Order: 1886 - ~357
Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection - ~259k
Until Dawn - ~330k
God of War III Remastered - ~162k
Tearaway Unfolded - ~24k

 

Do we know Halo Bundle #s? We need more #s!!!!!! I want to know Halo/Splatoon/SMM numbers with the bundles :-/

 

Im guessing H5 is around 2.3mil with bundle+digital, not bad since it was about 1mil first month (i think).  Splatoon+SSB bundle i want to know of Dec, we kno 140k for Nov!



Boutros on 18 January 2016
tbone51 said:
Boutros said:

XBO LTD:

Halo 5: Guardians - ~1.699m
Forza Motorsport 6 - ~451k
Gears of War: Ultimate Edition - ~371k
Rise of the Tomb Raider - ~345k
Rare Replay - ~239k
State of Decay: Year One Survival Edition - ~81k

PS4 LTD:

Bloodborne - ~754k
MLB 15: The Show - ~626k
The Order: 1886 - ~357
Uncharted : The Nathan Drake Collection - ~259k
Until Dawn - ~330k
God of War III Remastered - ~162k
Tearaway Unfolded - ~24k

 

Do we know Halo Bundle #s? We need more #s!!!!!! I want to know Halo/Splatoon/SMM numbers with the bundles :-/

 

Im guessing H5 is around 2.3mil with bundle+digital, not bad since it was about 1mil first month (i think).  Splatoon+SSB bundle i want to know of Dec, we kno 140k for Nov!

First month was 93k for the Halo 5 bundle and then second month was over 100k (LTD) but that's all we know.