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We won't see games this pretty again until 9th gen...

Yes. Agree. 88 26.27%
 
No. Disagree. 111 33.13%
 
Only on small in scope or... 35 10.45%
 
UC4 will look just as good. 42 12.54%
 
UC4 will look better. 59 17.61%
 
Total:335
Zekkyou said:
I don't really see how Until Dawn and 1886 are 'essentially the same'. They're both 3rd person, and both have a strong focus on story, but that's about it. Even those two similarities are handled quite differently.

I personally enjoyed Until Dawn a lot more. It wasn't particularly scary, and the second half's sudden shift in tone was pretty odd, but while it lasted Until Dawn really sucked me in. It loses a lot of its charm in your 2nd run (where you start to see the cracks in its illusion of choice), but in that first run, where i had no idea which choices would and wouldn't be significant, i felt a real sense of danger. That's not something video games often make me feel.

 

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John2290 said:
d21lewis said:
I think it was ReviewTechUSA (I hate that guy) that did a review of this game that I totally agreed with.

 

That always negative, condesending prick. I'm going to guess it was extremely negative and compared to PC a lot. Ill check it out anyway.

 

It was very positive. It makes me angry knowing that we agree on ANYTHING! That bastard.



better than any PC game? Wtf??

Skyrim with mods looks far better than this, still.



I enjoyed the order 1886. 

 

Graphics, atmosphere, voice acting(I thought was superb and usually overlooked), story and the gameplay was good (not great but rarely are games perfect gameplay). I enjoyed the linear story as well. I don't need every game to be an open world fetch questapalloozza. 

 

I wish is hit had been multiplat so it'd of not been so vehemently attacked and I'd get to play a part 2 but that's not the way the chips fell.

edit:  it should have been talked more about how well this game worked bug free as well by the press which is rare this gen.  



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I have not played it for myself but I have seen it in action and yeah....it is a visual and technical masterpiece!



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The Order 1886 is one of the best looking games ever made, however it's still a terrible game overall. It's lacking severely in just about every other aspect of the game. The writing is a mess and the gameplay is about as vanilla and safe as you could get. Though I could've honestly forgiven the gameplay if the story was top notch...



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Great graphics are nice... but The Order simply wasn't the gameplay experience people wanted.

With Until Dawn, people knew what to expect and it sounds like people enjoyed what it did.



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John2290 said:

You could really say the same about uncharted games or any fps prior to COD4 MW. But yes I agree, Great game it is not. Great graphical tech demo it is,

One of my main complaints with Uncharted is it's very linear and very static. You can throw other franchises like Gears of War in there also imho. Not that it's always a bad thing, for example Max Payne 3 is the same way yet I thought the game was amazing outside of insane load times. Yet even Uncharted is wayyyy more open than The Order. I wouldn't expect many if any games to reach the visual level of The Order on consoles and that's a good thing, because we need less games like The Order. It's the type of game you'd expect at the launch of a console, where you can excuse the extremely short length (5.5 hours to platinum for me) many gameplay flaws, and cliff hanger ending on being rushed for launch. But the game wasn't set for launch and was even delayed on top of that. Which means their intention was to present the prettiest game they possibly could with little to no regard for quality of actually playing it. And that's sad. It maybe sets the standard for how not to make a game. It's no surprise the game was shat on, the founder stepped down, and last I read they still don't have Sony's approval for a sequel.

I think eventually a sequel will come, although it might not be from RAD. We could easily see a less expensive downloadable title to close the story. The investment wouldn't have to be nearly as large since the engine is done already. There is a market for these types of "games".

You have it backwards on FPS. They used to be a lot more open ended and varied until they succumbed to modern game design. CoD4 followed the same design other shooters do now. Hell, it might have invented it. Run down corridor, handle enemy waves, cut scene, run down corridor, handle enemy waves, etc etc. You're guided through the levels as opposed to finding your way. I mean, compare that to something like Goldeneye, where you could sit 10 people down and see them beat a level like Facility in 10 different ways. And the modern design can be fine if the experience is worth it. Developers can make a good story, have challenging AI, good weapon design, good level design, interesting enemies. For me The Order had none of that. The only interesting enemy turns out to be a generic and repetitive QTE.

You must be very fast. It took me at least 10h to platinum. At least you enjoyed the time you played?

Nem said:

Normally, i would agree with you, but this isn't a matter of opinion. Its just wether you care enough. Its a fact that 60 fps is better for gameplay purposes. 

Yes it's... some will trade 720p60fps to 1080p30fps, me being one of them. So yes I have issues with you pretending that everyone should think like you



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Sharpryno said:
better than any PC game? Wtf??

Skyrim with mods looks far better than this, still.

Yep, because PC are 8th gen.

And mods here are better than anywhere else.

John2290 said:
Lrdfancypants said:

I enjoyed the order 1886. 

Graphics, atmosphere, voice acting(I thought was superb and usually overlooked), story and the gameplay was good (not great but rarely are games perfect gameplay). I enjoyed the linear story as well. I don't need every game to be an open world fetch questapalloozza. 

I wish is hit had been multiplat so it'd of not been so vehemently attacked and I'd get to play a part 2 but that's not the way the chips fell.

edit:  it should have been talked more about how well this game worked bug free as well by the press which is rare this gen.  

A point which is sad we have to praise. MGS5 is also an example but nobody talks about it. And I too fear it is Xbots and Nintendy's who are attacking this game. Reviewers go with popular opinio these days or whatever the personalities are praising. Halo 5, 4 hour story...Where is the justice there...

Very sad that people have soo much bias and hate on their heart and that a bugfree is overlooked and bug ridden is accepted so much.

Mr Puggsly said:

Great graphics are nice... but The Order simply wasn't the gameplay experience people wanted.

With Until Dawn, people knew what to expect and it sounds like people enjoyed what it did.

I liked the game, but yes too many players were disappointed, a missed chance.

And I'm still to play Until Dawn.



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