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TruckOSaurus said:
Tbone said:
"dear daddy, boys trying to get their hands down my pants when i´m wasted"

Keyword here is wasted. You practically inviting them yourself.

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?



I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 





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Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?

I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 

So if you were wasted at a party (which probably happened at some point in your life), it would be okay for me to slide my hands down your pants?



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:

For every Feminazi there is one guy doing the oposite and fucking obsessed with them trying to label every feminist a crazy Feminazi. Both are sad as fuck. What we need is to stop giving attention to both of them.

I haven't met a feminist that wasn't an insufferable man-hater in 6 years, and I live in the single most liberal city in all of the South (it's practically California now).



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Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?



I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 



But when a man does the same thing, it's because he expects not to be raped by his so called friends or strangers because he's a man. Get over yourself.



TruckOSaurus said:
Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?

I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 

So if you were wasted at a party (which probably happened at some point in your life), it would be okay for me to slide my hands down your pants?

Never been wasted at a party because no good decisions come from combining large numbers of mixed company and alcohol. My heavy drinking was exclusively with a select few friends and brothers/cousins.

 

So to answer your question, no it wouldn't. Thus my desire to not lose the ability to save our comprehend "No" around other people who have lost that same ability. 





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sundin13 said:
forest-spirit said:
Groundking said:

No they are becasue the majority that identify themselves as feminist act like that. It's really not hard mate. And honestly, what has Feminism ever done for men?

 

Azuren said:

And when nearly everyone who identifies as a feminist acts like a man-hating fool, what then? The term feminist has been hijacked by spurned women, but there are some who refuse to acknowledge that. 



 

Those are some bold statements. Out of curiosity, what information are they based on?

 

Well, the predominant and powerful arms of feminism are those that fall on what most would term the "radical" side of feminism. I wouldn't personally call them "man-hating fools", but certainly anti-equality in many ways and often have viewpoints or propositions which are harmful to men. These viewpoints are found first of all in all those horrible feminist holes on the internet, but this brand of feminism is also the kind seen on Universities, in large parts of the feminist news media (ie Jessica Valenti) and in the largest feminist organization NOW.

Again, these are the parts of feminism that hold the most power and are clearly the loudest voices, so why should we not say "these individuals and these groups and these viewpoints are representative of modern feminism"?

 

Because they're only representing that particular brand of feminism?

 

Back to the claims I responded to. According to a poll from 2014 made before the election 47% identifed themselves as feminists. Now, I may be talking out of my behind when I say this but I'm pretty sure that the amount of man-haters, anti-equality warriors, etc. aren't quite as numerous, which is why I'm quite sceptical to the statements made by Azuren and Groundking, and also the idea that they can or should be represented by the group(s) of radicals you described.



Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:
Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?

I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 

So if you were wasted at a party (which probably happened at some point in your life), it would be okay for me to slide my hands down your pants?

Never been wasted at a party because no good decisions come from combining large numbers of mixed company and alcohol. My heavy drinking was exclusively with a select few friends and brothers/cousins.

 

So to answer your question, no it wouldn't. Thus my desire to not lose the ability to save our comprehend "No" around other people who have lost that same ability. 



If only incest doesn't exist right?



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?



I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 

 

If you had a daughter/sister/causin that got raped/someone took advantage of her when she got one time drunk you would not feels sorry for her.

I am just imagining you telling her :

" You deserved it, i dont feel sorry for you !! Your fault !!! "

Is not this sounding retarded as fuck to you ?

Sometimes people in this site makes me want to vomite.

 

Your overreaction is classic, and is one of the leading reasons I don't take feminists seriously in the slightest.

 

I never said I don't feel sorry for rape victims. I was identifying the grounds on which this was said to better help people from being obnoxiously belligerent.

 

I never said it was her fault. You jumped to that conclusion because you'd rather be mad than informed. 

 

Rape is never the victim's fault, however there is a point where we have to admit that doing something stupid will beget consequences. Rapists aren't suddenly going to go away, just like obnoxious feminazis aren't going to go away. All we can do is get better at prevention, which includes educating on the lasting scars of rape, why we shouldn't do it, and how to avoid putting yourself into a position to get raped. 

 

Prevention is a two way street. Just like you should wear a condom during sex, someone with AIDS probably should be having sex with you in the first place. 



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Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?



I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 



 

I'm not comfortable with that justification. Just because someone decides to drink doesn't mean we should blame the victim for having a fun night. Rather than saying "well she should have known better" we should all be focusing our energy on the attacker in these situations. 

 

As an aside, wtf is with the title of this thread. Come on with the baiting - I'm easily trolled, don't get me all riled up 



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Azuren said:
TruckOSaurus said:

Because it's okay to try and take advantage of a someone who is wasted?

I think the point he was making is that it's hard to feel sorry for someone who intentionally puts herself in that situation. 

 

iAlso. Maybe you should be a little more careful a bit, not just go all out and thinking nothing will happen to me. Its not that world we live in.

The way they put is, lets just blame all the men. Cause we are perfect.