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The fact that so many "grown" men are talking about this, on a video game site, makes the guys sound way more desperate than the women...

Who cares if women have rights too? Jesus. Give it a rest, already.



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what would you suggest we do to make women safer?

 

No raping women would be an awesome start. Not judging them solely on how big of a boner they give you would help too. How about judging them for their minds, instead of their boobs? 

I don't know, man. The answers all seem relatively obvious to me.



Skratchy said:

what would you suggest we do to make women safer?

 

No raping women would be an awesome start. Not judging them solely on how big of a boner they give you would help too. How about judging them for their minds, instead of their boobs? 

I don't know, man. The answers all seem relatively obvious to me.

 

"No raping women would be an awesome start"

how are you going to guarantee that men who don't care about others or society in general don't rape women?

 

"Not judging them solely on how big of a boner they give you would help too"

how are you going to stop men from valuing the sexuality of women over their personality?

 

"How about judging them for their minds, instead of their boobs?"

suppose the woman you're interacting with doesn't have a good mind but has great boobs?

 

"The answers all seem relatively obvious to me."

yeah i can tell




Skratchy said:
The fact that so many "grown" men are talking about this, on a video game site, makes the guys sound way more desperate than the women...

Who cares if women have rights too? Jesus. Give it a rest, already.

 


Not one of us is complaining that women have rights. Did you even read through the thread at all?



Funny how you (not aimed at OP, just in general) present these types of videos and it's just a massive shit show in the comment section. Both sides just need to chill the fuck out.

I thought the video was pretty well made. I understood the message they were trying to convey. The part that really hit me was "there's truth in every joke." That line speaks volumes to me, and disregarding just at women, it's an important concept with a lot of truth in it. What I didn't like was the fallacy they continued to go off of. Since event A happened, it leads to event B, and so forth. I don't get how people are getting this offended (oh wait it's the internet). The only people who I assume are pissed off at it, are the ones they're targeting.

Edit: Most of the BS in this thread would be gone if the OP didn't include that type of title. I mean come on... -______-

Edit (2): I IMPLORE YOU NOT TO READ THE YOUTUBE COMMENTS. Ugh, good God, I'm fucking done with YT comments. I wish there was a way so I could never see them. INB4, don't scroll down. 



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o_O.Q said:

lol this was funny at first but now it really is getting sad... are you implying here that its not fact that men produce more testosterone?

What is sad is your interpretation of what I am saying. Are you not able to read all the points where I clearly state men are much more likely to produce more testosterone. We both know it is a fact that men develop more testosterone than women, I'm simply pointing out that not ALL men produce more testosterone than ALL women.

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first of all me using testosterone is one example out of many many different criteria that make men and women different

secondly men with lesser testosterone still have much more testosterone in general than women 

If I look at a woman and a man I will 'see' clear differences. As I have previously stated I am speaking on a scientific level because anyone can have a perspective on someone and attempt to point out cause and effect, but that would be guess work. Also, we keep jumping back and forth between physiology and psychology (not that I have a problem with that since that's how this conversation started) so I just didn't bother responding to the entirety of your previous post but I'll answer that question you asked down below.

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lol really? so you believe a man would develope into a man without the male sex hormone? 

do you understand the purpose of hormones and sex hormones in particular?

I have a general understanding of hormones and sex hormones and the transfer of sex hormones as well, yes. But you seem to be trying to catch me in a trap and using my words against me. Unfortunately I did not state that a man can still be a man without testosterone, I said it is not dependent on the amount. If we didn't have testosterone we wouldn't live nearly as long as we do since there are major health benefits of testosterone. There is a reason why it takes more than just anti-testosterone antibody's to transition from a male to a female.

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lol but you are missing the point... which is that a larger concentration produces a significantly larger effect

Which I am not arguing against...

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lol ok one of the responsiblities of the female sex hormone ( oestrogen ) is to regulate the menstrual cycle.. do you believe that the small quantities of oestrogen in men regulate a menstrual cycle in men?

No, I don't think that. But now we are on the topic of physiology where I have already stated that men and women aren't exactly the same but are practically the same, biologically speaking. Psychologically speaking any amounts of emotion a woman can produce due to the effects of oestrogen can happen in a male as well. Physiology is obviously different in this case but as with testosterone for men, my arguement stands the same on oestrogen for women.

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"and besides that if men and women are pretty much the same why is this ad directed towards men specifically as if men are in fact different? as if it takes into account that men are more sexually predatory?"

i'm still waiting for your answer on this point

So yeah, I don't see why you think this question is important. The only reason your question would be important is if this video had any factual basis in the first place. The video was made by someone with overly feministic views and you're using it to prove that men are psychologically different? Men are different because this video said so? Men are different otherwise why would this video exist? Really?You are giving way too much credit to the video.



DonFerrari said:

No you are trying to push a small overlap as being equal... if 99% of the cases man have a lot more testosterone than Woman and that causes very clear effects it's silly even on a cientific stand point to say the are inexistent because both produce some of it.

I have already stated that men are much more likely to produce more testosterone than women, I have never argued against this and have actually already agreed with it for obvious reasons. Why keep coming back to something that almost all people already know? There is nothing special about saying men have more testosterone than women and it proves nothing other than men may act more aggressively because of the higher amounts of testosterone. How many times do I have to agree with this? Of course men have more testosterone but if your still arguing with me then maybe you don't quite understand my claims, maybe that is my fault, I can admit but I feel as though I have been pretty good on acknowledging the differences between men and women.

 

My claim is that psychology is not bound by what sex you are, literally that simple. How is this overlapping my points?





A_C_E said:
o_O.Q said:

lol this was funny at first but now it really is getting sad... are you implying here that its not fact that men produce more testosterone?

What is sad is your interpretation of what I am saying. Are you not able to read all the points where I clearly state men are much more likely to produce more testosterone. We both know it is a fact that men develop more testosterone than women, I'm simply pointing out that not ALL men produce more testosterone than ALL women.

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first of all me using testosterone is one example out of many many different criteria that make men and women different

secondly men with lesser testosterone still have much more testosterone in general than women 

If I look at a woman and a man I will 'see' clear differences. As I have previously stated I am speaking on a scientific level because anyone can have a perspective on someone and attempt to point out cause and effect, but that would be guess work. Also, we keep jumping back and forth between physiology and psychology (not that I have a problem with that since that's how this conversation started) so I just didn't bother responding to the entirety of your previous post but I'll answer that question you asked down below.

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lol really? so you believe a man would develope into a man without the male sex hormone? 

do you understand the purpose of hormones and sex hormones in particular?

I have a general understanding of hormones and sex hormones and the transfer of sex hormones as well, yes. But you seem to be trying to catch me in a trap and using my words against me. Unfortunately I did not state that a man can still be a man without testosterone, I said it is not dependent on the amount. If we didn't have testosterone we wouldn't live nearly as long as we do since there are major health benefits of testosterone. There is a reason why it takes more than just anti-testosterone antibody's to transition from a male to a female.

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lol but you are missing the point... which is that a larger concentration produces a significantly larger effect

Which I am not arguing against...

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lol ok one of the responsiblities of the female sex hormone ( oestrogen ) is to regulate the menstrual cycle.. do you believe that the small quantities of oestrogen in men regulate a menstrual cycle in men?

No, I don't think that. But now we are on the topic of physiology where I have already stated that men and women aren't exactly the same but are practically the same, biologically speaking. Psychologically speaking any amounts of emotion a woman can produce due to the effects of oestrogen can happen in a male as well. Physiology is obviously different in this case but as with testosterone for men, my arguement stands the same on oestrogen for women.

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"and besides that if men and women are pretty much the same why is this ad directed towards men specifically as if men are in fact different? as if it takes into account that men are more sexually predatory?"

i'm still waiting for your answer on this point

So yeah, I don't see why you think this question is important. The only reason your question would be important is if this video had any factual basis in the first place. The video was made by someone with overly feministic views and you're using it to prove that men are psychologically different? Men are different because this video said so? Men are different otherwise why would this video exist? Really?You are giving way too much credit to the video.

 

"I'm simply pointing out that not ALL men produce more testosterone than ALL women."

i feel the need to ask thiis again but you are aware of the purpose of testosterone and why we call it the male sex hormone right?

 

" Also, we keep jumping back and forth between physiology and psychology"

they are both linked anyway so doesn't matter

 

" I said it is not dependent on the amount. "

well again you would be absolutely wrong and you are showing quite clearly that you do not understand how this works

 

"lol but you are missing the point... which is that a larger concentration produces a significantly larger effect"

"Which I am not arguing against..."

" I said it is not dependent on the amount. "

 

"ut now we are on the topic of physiology where I have already stated that men and women aren't exactly the same"

testosterone and its effects are also a part of physiology 

 

"Psychologically speaking any amounts of emotion a woman can produce due to the effects of oestrogen can happen in a male as well."

lol i'm done

 

" The video was made by someone with overly feministic views"

that's ironic coming from a guy desperately trying to prove that men and women are almost the same and failing miserably

 

" you're using it to prove that men are psychologically different?"

no i'm just saying that the vieo was made with the understanding that men and women are different with regards to their behavior




Sorry if 20 previous posts stated the same, but hey - it's just a video.



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