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Rogerioandrade said:
midrange said:
Rogerioandrade said:

(1) The same way as promising something to consumers and actually doing it are different things,  right?

(2) I wouldn´t have changed the initial project and would have continued it as initially planned and promised to costumers, simple as that. It just turned out to be a "broken 22fps game" because they changed the project in the middle of it.

(3) Then why did they need crowdfunding for this project? They should have made a partnership, used their own money to do whatever they wanted, release the game and lauching a marketing campaign to boost sales,  hoping to get the interest they wanted, like any other studio normally does. On the moment they started to begging fans for money, making promises, they were preventing themselves from any possibility of "losing money". They got what they needed to finish the job. Seems like a sick excuse to me, as a consumer

 

(1) they actually did work on the game though. It's not like they said "good, we have the money, let's just stop." They actually did more than just say promises.

(2) what happens if you run out of money when making something, you stop. People have lives and people need to be paid consistently. You can't just tell a programmer "hey we're out of money, but can you help us optimize this game beyond 22 fps." No, like I said, they're not a charity, they are a business. They saw an issue and put an end to it before it cost them more money.

(3) most of their crowd funded money came from PC owners. And they completed it. The Wii u was a goal they wanted, but they never reached it with the funds and money they had. So they stopped

1) They worked on the game and it was running just fine, as they stated to the media several times, but then  why they changed the project in the middle of it  and abandoned what was done before and what was promised?  The sales forecast excuse is a sick  one since the possibility of sales would be much higher on the devices with a bigger install base.

2) That wasn´t the case. They had the money, more than enough. So much that they changed the entire planning to work on "next-gen" (at the time of development) platforms. No serious company with a short or uncertain budget would do that and throw away hundreds of hours of hard work on something that was actually working well.

3) There´s no real source that confirms who gave more money. The only actual fact we have is that the intention or purchasing was a lot higher for the WiiU than for other devices, what may be an indication that WiiU owners took a great part in that funding. The WiiU version was woking just fine before they decided to change the entire planning for the new platforms. Again, they had more than enough money. The PC version sold horribly,, by the way.

It´s still a very unprofessional attitude, and disrespectful with their consumers. I´m done here.



1) sales forecast is perfectly valid, third party games sell like trash regardless of how great they are. Just look at Bayonetta 2.

2) why move onto next gen despite having a low budget? Not only do you have more power to work with (to make a better game), the audience on both platforms heavily supports third party making the risk worth it.

3) they themselves stated in an interview that the game was funded mostly by pc gamers. This was actually after the Wii u cancellation to remind people that their main platform concern has always been pc, not PS3/Xbox 360/wii u.

at the end of the day, they are a business. They did something unfavorable, but it was needed to avoid more costs. I'm also done here. We've derailed from the main topic too much.



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I own many wii u games but don't have time for more games right now. It would have been a day one purchase for me last year. Maybe I'll get it a year from now if I haven't switch to nx and I'm still looking for Wii U stuff to play.



I am not very good at it, but I love it. Surprisingly worthy of the wait and the hype.



midrange said:
Rogerioandrade said:

1) sales forecast is perfectly valid, third party games sell like trash regardless of how great they are. Just look at Bayonetta 2.

2) why move onto next gen despite having a low budget? Not only do you have more power to work with (to make a better game), the audience on both platforms heavily supports third party making the risk worth it.

3) they themselves stated in an interview that the game was funded mostly by pc gamers. This was actually after the Wii u cancellation to remind people that their main platform concern has always been pc, not PS3/Xbox 360/wii u.

at the end of the day, they are a business. They did something unfavorable, but it was needed to avoid more costs. I'm also done here. We've derailed from the main topic too much.

Nothing of that really rings a bell, or make any sense at all from a business point-of-view....

but whatever dumb reasons or decisions  they had, their situation towards consumers doesn´t change. Farewell.