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S.T.A.G.E. on 16 December 2015
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Several people have listed a lot more AAA exclusives for Sony and showed that you included non AAA things on MS basket to give them the win, but you still insist that MS had the better output. MS isn't pushing any of Sony if we see the sales.

I really don't mind if you list them. Even Sony's knows they've been lagging with AAA exclusives. This is the second year in a row that Sony has had to apologize for lacking AAA exclusives.

Their admission and how it compares to competitors is a little different thing.

I already gave you free reign to prove your point with AAA's.

Ok... so here it's as most have stated before

2016 retail exclusives:
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Gran Turismo: Sport
Ratchet & Clank
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Street Fighter V
Dreams
The Last Guardian
Gravity Rush 2
The King of Fighters XIV
Yakuza 6
Dragon Quest XI

 Final Fantasy VII Remake

Shenmue 3
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Ni-Oh
Attack on Titan

Detroit

Ninokuni 2

Since you dismissed non AAA JRPG here are them separated

2016 retail exclusives:

Persona 5
Valkyria of the Blue Revolution
Valkyria Chronicles Remake
Yakuza 6
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
World of Final Fantasy
Dissidia: Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest Heroes 2
Dragon Quest Builders
NieR: Automata
Star Ocean 5
Project Setsuna
Tales of Berseria
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Summon Night 6: Lost Borders
Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Nights of Azure
Ys 8
Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky
Hyperdimension Neptunia VII
Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus
The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition

 

How does the 5 exclusives from MS (and not necessarily exclusives are almost at the same level?)

 


I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.



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Robert_Downey_Jr. on 16 December 2015
John2290 said:
...and deep down, hell blade, the witness, rime, fire watch (console ex) and Rachet and clank: the movie video game

and Abzu!





I am Iron Man

DonFerrari on 16 December 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I already gave you free reign to prove your point with AAA's.

Ok... so here it's as most have stated before

2016 retail exclusives:
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Gran Turismo: Sport
Ratchet & Clank
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Street Fighter V
Dreams
The Last Guardian
Gravity Rush 2
The King of Fighters XIV
Yakuza 6
Dragon Quest XI

 Final Fantasy VII Remake

Shenmue 3
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Ni-Oh
Attack on Titan

Detroit

Ninokuni 2

Since you dismissed non AAA JRPG here are them separated

2016 retail exclusives:

Persona 5
Valkyria of the Blue Revolution
Valkyria Chronicles Remake
Yakuza 6
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
World of Final Fantasy
Dissidia: Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest Heroes 2
Dragon Quest Builders
NieR: Automata
Star Ocean 5
Project Setsuna
Tales of Berseria
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Summon Night 6: Lost Borders
Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Nights of Azure
Ys 8
Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky
Hyperdimension Neptunia VII
Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus
The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition

 

How does the 5 exclusives from MS (and not necessarily exclusives are almost at the same level?)

I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.

Please list what isn't AAA on this list and why



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Mr Puggsly on 18 December 2015
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Right, I'm already buying stuff when I see it cheap. I have The Order, Uncharted Collection (bought from someone who didn't want bundled code), and a bunch of stuff from PS+.

I'll probably grab for Killzone and Infamous for like $10. I pretty much just want it for the exclusives.

No friends around to lend you the PS4 so you can play the ones you found cheap???

 

No, I don't know anyone that would lend me a PS4 nor would I ask.

If I REALLY wanted to play PS4 games I would just go buy a PS4. I have a collection of X1 games I haven't touched, some still in shrink wrap. I just bought a Wii U on Black Friday and have numerous games to finish on that (Mario 3D World, New Super Mario Wii U and Splatoon). I still have PS3 games I'd like to play eventually. If you look at my sig I even play a lot of handheld away from home.

So do I REALLY need a PS4 now? No. I bought the Wii U first because I REALLY wanted to play Bayonetta 2 and some Nintendo stuff.



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DonFerrari on 18 December 2015

 

Mr Puggsly said:
DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Right, I'm already buying stuff when I see it cheap. I have The Order, Uncharted Collection (bought from someone who didn't want bundled code), and a bunch of stuff from PS+.

I'll probably grab for Killzone and Infamous for like $10. I pretty much just want it for the exclusives.

No friends around to lend you the PS4 so you can play the ones you found cheap???

No, I don't know anyone that would lend me a PS4 nor would I ask.

If I REALLY wanted to play PS4 games I would just go buy a PS4. I have a collection of X1 games I haven't touched, some still in shrink wrap. I just bought a Wii U on Black Friday and have numerous games to finish on that (Mario 3D World, New Super Mario Wii U and Splatoon). I still have PS3 games I'd like to play eventually. If you look at my sig I even play a lot of handheld away from home.

So do I REALLY need a PS4 now? No. I bought the Wii U first because I REALLY wanted to play Bayonetta 2 and some Nintendo stuff.

I see... yes you are right in your decision. Never a dull time.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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S.T.A.G.E. on 19 December 2015
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I already gave you free reign to prove your point with AAA's.

 

I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.

Please list what isn't AAA on this list and why

 

AAA titles are games that are considered higher tier because of budget and marketing which causes larger profit expectations. 



tiffac on 19 December 2015
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I already gave you free reign to prove your point with AAA's.

Ok... so here it's as most have stated before

2016 retail exclusives:
Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Gran Turismo: Sport
Ratchet & Clank
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Street Fighter V
Dreams
The Last Guardian
Gravity Rush 2
The King of Fighters XIV
Yakuza 6
Dragon Quest XI

 Final Fantasy VII Remake

Shenmue 3
Kingdom Hearts 2.8
Ni-Oh
Attack on Titan

Detroit

Ninokuni 2

Since you dismissed non AAA JRPG here are them separated

2016 retail exclusives:

Persona 5
Valkyria of the Blue Revolution
Valkyria Chronicles Remake
Yakuza 6
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
World of Final Fantasy
Dissidia: Final Fantasy
Dragon Quest Heroes 2
Dragon Quest Builders
NieR: Automata
Star Ocean 5
Project Setsuna
Tales of Berseria
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Summon Night 6: Lost Borders
Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book
Nights of Azure
Ys 8
Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky
Hyperdimension Neptunia VII
Fairy Fencer F: Advent Dark Force
Senran Kagura: Estival Versus
The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition

 

How does the 5 exclusives from MS (and not necessarily exclusives are almost at the same level?)

I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.

Please list what isn't AAA on this list and why

Don I'm sorry but those are Shovelware games.





DonFerrari on 19 December 2015
S.T.A.G.E. said:
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.

Please list what isn't AAA on this list and why

AAA titles are games that are considered higher tier because of budget and marketing which causes larger profit expectations. 

Uncharted 4: A Thief's End
Gran Turismo: Sport
Horizon: Zero Dawn
Street Fighter V
Dreams
The Last Guardian
Dragon Quest XI

 Final Fantasy VII Remake

Shenmue 3

Detroit

Ninokuni 2

All of those either have AAA budgets or will have a great shot at outselling Scalebound, crackdown and Forza. But yet you consider the 4th iteration an AAA game but didn't count GT, Dreams, DQ, Shenmue, Detroit and Ninokuni 2, why? 

tiffac said:
DonFerrari said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

I asked for AAA. That will narrow out your list. I already stated that Sony would decimate Microsoft in a list war. I'll count Final Fantasy but I dont know how long the timed exclusivity will be for. Im hyped for that on the PS4 first just like I was  for Tomb Raider on the One.

Please list what isn't AAA on this list and why

Don I'm sorry but those are Shovelware games.

You want me to believe that the whole list is shovelware? You have a very high standard if UC 4 is shovelware =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

tiffac on 19 December 2015
DonFerrari said:

You want me to believe that the whole list is shovelware? You have a very high standard if UC 4 is shovelware =p

My eyes were just opened to the truth.

Everything was a lie since PS2. :S





DonFerrari on 21 December 2015
tiffac said:
DonFerrari said:

You want me to believe that the whole list is shovelware? You have a very high standard if UC 4 is shovelware =p

My eyes were just opened to the truth.

Everything was a lie since PS2. :S

Cruel world... well whenever you find a game that survives you criterias present them to me because I'll really want to play it =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."