Man, I support your defense of Devil's Third and am also pissed off with NoA 'cause I want to play it too, but I can't see how Amiibo Festival, Mario Tennis or Xenoblade being crap and receiving less or more flak from fans matters at this point.

Oh, i'm not the type to take reviewers for their word.

Bound by flame had terrible reviews and its one of my favorite games of the last 2 years.

So, i don't know. It may be that DT is actually fun. Because this is the important part. If you have fun playing the game, and not how much of a technical achievement it is.

Don't see what you're talking about as the Nintendo games have clearly been getting more hate and negative attention. I've crapped on Ultra Trash and Garbage Festival way more than I think any game ever, aside from Sticker Star. That comment I made in the Nintendomination thread is only the second or third time I've taken a jab at Devils Third.

No, just if it means getting a cheap filler out on a drought, those 2 games are secondary spin offs, you would never see Nintendo doing anything even similar with one of its mainline games of any of its big franchises, or any other of its big releases, never.

I haven't played any of those 3 games but probably won't..

Not point in spending money in a game I most likely won't enjoy. Of course, not everyone will hate those games, but the majority (and the vocal majority too) dislike it so there has been a lot of talk of how bad these threads are, and I don't really see Ultra Smash or Amiibo Festival ignored..

Another example of somebody who looks into the numbers way too much. Have you ever stopped to consider that the Devil's Third and Mario Tennis might have been reviewed by different individuals? Have you ever also thought about the fact that because of what kind of games they are that the expectations for Devil's Third might have been higher. Also, as you said, there's really nothing "wrong" with Mario Tennis in terms of how it looks and plays. It's just a little lacking for a Mario game. Devil's Third on the other hand seems to have actual quality issues.

Also, about Framerate issues on the N64. Perfect Dark's framerate issues (which weren't nearly as bad as a lot of people claim btw) were metioned in reviews back in 2000 but they were considered only a minor problem and were deemed as acceptable because in those days, lots of games had framerate issues. Unlike today, it was nearly unavoidable. It was actually expected that a game like Perfect Dark would have framerate issues. The fact that a console game actually existed where you could have four human players and 8 computer players at the same time was considered somewhat of an achievement back then. Besides, Goldeneye also had framerate issues, as did the Turok games. So most reasonable people were expecting a game like Perfect Dark that was newer and had even more advanced graphics and gameplay ot not have those issues.

Great thread! Well said!!!!

yeah! Well said! You are completely wrong because those 3 games have been bashed for ninty fans all around VGC, but well said!

Why is this game even mentioned in this same breath as the other 3?

Edit: Never mind, Spurge mentioned it in the OP. Now my question is directed at Spurge.

Well, they're the latest games published by Nintendo for Wii U, leaving it out just didn't feel right. Also, in my personal opinion, without having played it, Xenoblade seems like a pretty bad game.