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ethomaz said:
Teeqoz said:

Careful Etho

So I will be banned to put facts in the table




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Snoopy said:

Halo 5 made xbox one outsell the PS4 for november NPD despite the PS4 price cut for the month in just 4 days. 

Also, we are not counting digital sales which could put it above half Halo 3. Halo 3 had the luxery of having no competition while Halo 5 has to go up against star wars and black ops this year. Really good numbers. Mario Kart 8 and GT6 did a lot worse if we compare to previous entries.

You mean Gears made Xbone outsell PS4 by 30k because it was the top seller Bundle SKU in October.

Yes we are counting digital... 1.3m is digital included for October in US... and no it won't reach near half of Halo 3 even with digital.

The competition in 2007 was like today... c'mon Moderm Warfare, BioShock, etc,

GT6 was pointed like a failure at launch... so what your point here? I didn't know the Mario Kart 8 sales.



ethomaz said:
Snoopy said:

Halo 5 made xbox one outsell the PS4 for november NPD despite the PS4 price cut for the month in just 4 days. 

Also, we are not counting digital sales which could put it above half Halo 3. Halo 3 had the luxery of having no competition while Halo 5 has to go up against star wars and black ops this year. Really good numbers. Mario Kart 8 and GT6 did a lot worse if we compare to previous entries.

You mean Gears made Xbone outsell PS4 by 30k because it was the top seller Bundle SKU in October.

Yes we are counting digital... 1.3m is digital included for October in US... and no it won't reach near half of Halo 3 even with digital.

The competition in 2007 was like today... c'mon Moderm Warfare, BioShock, etc,

GT6 was pointed like a failure at launch... so what your point here? I didn't know the Mario Kart 8 sales.


COD wasn't a huge thing yet (over a month away for COD4) and bioshock wasn't a competitive multiplayer game.

Im pretty sure a lot of people bought xbox ones for Halo 5, I mean you're trying to tell me people bought xbox one for gears of ultimate over the PS4 and the price cut? 

Also, the digital that is included are bundles and not including people downloading it through xbox one digital store going by what people have told me unless I am missing something.

With digital it probably is around 2 million because it was the fastest selling xbox game on the xbox digital online store during opening week.



Snoopy said:

COD wasn't a huge thing yet (over a month away for COD4) and bioshock wasn't a competitive multiplayer game.

Im pretty sure a lot of people bought xbox ones for Halo 5, I mean you're trying to tell me people bought xbox one for gears of ultimate over the PS4 and the price cut? 

Also, the digital that is included are bundles and not including people downloading it through xbox one digital store going by what people have told me unless I am missing something.

With digital it probably is around 2 million because it was the fastest selling xbox game on the xbox digital online store during opening week.

Again...

Retail copies: 842K
Bundles copies (digital + physical): 93k (we don't know the split here)
Digital copies: 365k

Total copies in October: 1.3m

Stop this 2 million nonsense please.

PS. CoD was not big lol it sold over 2m copies at retail on debut excluding PC sales (where it was more famous).



ethomaz said:
Snoopy said:

COD wasn't a huge thing yet (over a month away for COD4) and bioshock wasn't a competitive multiplayer game.

Im pretty sure a lot of people bought xbox ones for Halo 5, I mean you're trying to tell me people bought xbox one for gears of ultimate over the PS4 and the price cut? 

Also, the digital that is included are bundles and not including people downloading it through xbox one digital store going by what people have told me unless I am missing something.

With digital it probably is around 2 million because it was the fastest selling xbox game on the xbox digital online store during opening week.

Again...

Retail copies: 842K
Bundles copies (digital + physical): 93k (we don't know the split here)
Digital copies: 365k

Total copies in October: 1.3m

Stop this 2 million nonsense please.

PS. CoD was not big lol it sold over 2m copies at retail on debut excluding PC sales.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262144/halo-5-guardians-sells-an-estimated-146m-first-week/

The 1.5 first week is retail only according to this site.

COD 3 sold less than 3 million lifetime on xbox 360 according to this site as well.



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Snoopy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262144/halo-5-guardians-sells-an-estimated-146m-first-week/

The 1.5 first week is retail only according to this site.

COD 3 sold less than 3 million lifetime on xbox 360 according to this site as well.

Let's try again.

1. These are VGC numbers.
2. These are WW numbers.

This thread is about US.

Leaked numbers for US: 1.3m including digital for October (93k are bundles).

About WW we have these datas:

UK leaked numbers: ~150k without digital for October.
Germany BIU: less than 100k for October + November including digital.

PS. I won't be surprise if the Mod Team thinks I'm trolling or talking bad about Xbox lol



ethomaz said:
Snoopy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262144/halo-5-guardians-sells-an-estimated-146m-first-week/

The 1.5 first week is retail only according to this site.

COD 3 sold less than 3 million lifetime on xbox 360 according to this site as well.

Let's try again.

1. These are VGC numbers.
2. These are WW numbers.

This thread is about US.

Leaked numbers for US: 1.3m including digital for October (93k are bundles).

About WW we have these datas:

UK leaked numbers: ~150k without digital for October.
Germany BIU: less than 100k for October + November including digital.

PS. I won't be surprise if the Mod Team thinks I'm trolling or talking bad about Xbox lol

I would be.  I'll fully admit that in the past some of your responses have had an edge to them that wasn't totally necessary, but thus far in this exchange you're simply relating the information and/or clarifying data errors.



ethomaz said:
Snoopy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262144/halo-5-guardians-sells-an-estimated-146m-first-week/

The 1.5 first week is retail only according to this site.

COD 3 sold less than 3 million lifetime on xbox 360 according to this site as well.

Let's try again.

1. These are VGC numbers.
2. These are WW numbers.

This thread is about US.

Leaked numbers for US: 1.3m including digital for October (93k are bundles).

About WW we have these datas:

UK leaked numbers: ~150k without digital for October.
Germany BIU: less than 100k for October + November including digital.

PS. I won't be surprise if the Mod Team thinks I'm trolling or talking bad about Xbox lol but I hate people that try to create a dream that didn't happen... we have data to backup if a game did good or bad.

Where did you get these leaked numbers from lol? I was talking about world wide. Of course Halo 5 wouldn't hit 3 million in its first week in US alone. Thats where the 3 million from my original statement came from.



ethomaz said:
Teeqoz said:

Careful Etho

So I will be banned to put facts in the table


Your banning announcement didn't had any clause of being factual or positive... it was 100% "don't talk about anything that can relate to MS at all". But since whenever you are banned PS wins, by all means grab a ban =]



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Snoopy said:
ethomaz said:
Snoopy said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/262144/halo-5-guardians-sells-an-estimated-146m-first-week/

The 1.5 first week is retail only according to this site.

COD 3 sold less than 3 million lifetime on xbox 360 according to this site as well.

Let's try again.

1. These are VGC numbers.
2. These are WW numbers.

This thread is about US.

Leaked numbers for US: 1.3m including digital for October (93k are bundles).

About WW we have these datas:

UK leaked numbers: ~150k without digital for October.
Germany BIU: less than 100k for October + November including digital.

PS. I won't be surprise if the Mod Team thinks I'm trolling or talking bad about Xbox lol but I hate people that try to create a dream that didn't happen... we have data to backup if a game did good or bad.

Where did you get these leaked numbers from lol? I was talking about world wide. Of course Halo 5 wouldn't hit 3 million in its first week in US alone. Thats where the 3 million from my original statement came from.


NPD insiders that have provided to send infor more accurate than VGC have.

WW is estimated to be 1.7-2 at most for 1st week. Halo 3 was 3M in USA only. So what are you comparing?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."