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A_C_E on 10 December 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:

*sigh*

It's not a sin to have a black man or a young white woman as leads in Star Wars. It IS a sin, in my opinion, to have them as lead characters if it's done as a result of market research and focus groups. To take something like Star Wars and "hip it up"? No, just... no thank you. This is why I mentioned the dreaded artistic integrity argument. Artistic integrity is lost when said art is being created, in any way, with profits in mind. It's a well known fact that black guys and young girls, by in large, don't give a flying fuck about Star Wars and never have. In their misguided, profit driven minds, Disney thinks that by adding these two demographics, they're going to broaden the Star Wars market. To me, that's just unacceptable. I refuse to buy into it and support such disgusting practices.

It has nothing to do with women or black people and everything to do with modifying an artistic vision in order to make more money. 

The only way the artistic integrity is lost is if the actor was chosen only because he was black. If you have an actor who just so happens to be black and can actually act and carry a role then what's wrong with expanding the demographic by hiring the black actor? And that's IF Disney gave him the role due to his complection, which you have provided no evidence for and only came up with, "That would be a coincidence" as if coincidences don't exist...this scientifically doesn't make sense.

Virtually every script/cast that is made up in cinema, literature, broadway, any form of entertainment is modified from its original piece to reach mass appeal. You'd have an arguement if Star Wars was an independent film, but it's not. Star Wars is being released for the purpose of making money for the people who are funding the film. We are the beneficiaries of this outcome as we are the ones who have access to the entertainment and get to choose based on our taste. Doesn't seem so bad as you make it out to be. The actor will benefit, the company will benefit, you won't.



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ArchangelMadzz on 10 December 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
binary solo said:

So you can't actually explain why it's so wrong to have a black dude and a woman as the central characters. I would like to understand why it is such a massive Star Wars sin. 


*sigh*

It's not a sin to have a black man or a young white woman as leads in Star Wars. It IS a sin, in my opinion, to have them as lead characters if it's done as a result of market research and focus groups. To take something like Star Wars and "hip it up"? No, just... no thank you. This is why I mentioned the dreaded artistic integrity argument. Artistic integrity is lost when said art is being created, in any way, with profits in mind. It's a well known fact that black guys and young girls, by in large, don't give a flying fuck about Star Wars and never have. In their misguided, profit driven minds, Disney thinks that by adding these two demographics, they're going to broaden the Star Wars market. To me, that's just unacceptable. I refuse to buy into it and support such disgusting practices.

It has nothing to do with women or black people and everything to do with modifying an artistic vision in order to make more money. 

 

...Holy shit dude. I've never seen someone so angry at characters being dark and not having a dick. 

 

JJ worked with the dude before he plays the role well obviously, so what if him being black has other financial effects on the movie? If he can do the role then whatever?

 

I guess everything needs to stay very white and very male in future. Thanks for the heads up.

 

Also we're all waiting for when you demonstrate how they're modifying anything? They even have the same actors playing the same roles as before. 



There's only 2 races: White and 'Political Agenda'
2 Genders: Male and 'Political Agenda'
2 Hairstyles for female characters: Long and 'Political Agenda'
2 Sexualities: Straight and 'Political Agenda'

j.thomaz on 10 December 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
LipeJJ said:

I don't think he's being radical tho. He's probably just saying that he believes Disney chose a black actor to appeal to wider audiences.


Exactly. That and women. It's pretty common knowledge that Star Wars suffers in the african-american and female demographics. The fact that Disney actually went so far as to influence/alter the movie in order to expand it's reach financially sickens me. 


Could be worse you know? They could have put a bunch of teens ranging around and singing as if they were a band and as if they had any talent.

then you never know, we do not see Luke in the trailer do we? It's still possible he appears with Mikey ears or something.



d21lewis on 10 December 2015

Now I know who I;m dealing with.