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Is that enough footage?

Yes 96 26.52%
 
No 266 73.48%
 
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Pavolink on 18 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Pavolink said:

Ahahahahaha, so nothing. Can I have to point how everyone wanted the next Zelda to be like the E3 2011 demo?

No, I don't need. Fact is that realistic artstyle is what majority wants. Whether we are happy with the actual one or not, doesn't change that.

If that was a fact Zelda U art style certainly wouldn't praised so much and people would be very disappointed with Zelda U art style. But we know that isn't case at all, doesnt we!?

"Whether we are happy with the actual one or not, doesn't change that."

Everyone wanted E32011, but the new one is good to keep interest, but the first choice was E3 2011. Is that hard to accept? Stop defending Nintendo mistakes, it is embarassing.

 

Miyamotoo said:

While TP and MM are darker games, we cant say same thing for OoT, OoT definitely isn't dark Zelda game.

It is. Please stop this twist game to just fit to your interest. Read well: you are twisting the reality.

 

Miyamotoo said:

TP sold well because it's great Zelda launch game on best selling Nintendo console ever, not because of art style. You completely ignoring fact that TP was Zelda that was launch title, that itself is huge thing, but we are also talking about launch on best selling Nintendo console ever.

And Ocarina of Time sold that well without being a launch game. So, what's the excuse now? See, keep twisting.



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Miyamotoo on 18 December 2015
Pavolink said:
Miyamotoo said:

It is. Please stop this twist game to just fit to your interest. Read well: you are twisting the reality.

 

Miyamotoo said:

TP sold well because it's great Zelda launch game on best selling Nintendo console ever, not because of art style. You completely ignoring fact that TP was Zelda that was launch title, that itself is huge thing, but we are also talking about launch on best selling Nintendo console ever.

And Ocarina of Time sold that well without being a launch game. So, what's the excuse now? See, keep twisting.

Everyone wanted E3 2011 tech demo, but not in 2015, that demo doesn't look impressive at all by today standards, while Zelda U art style looks beautiful. I will make poll about that metter. What Nintendo mistakes I defending, what are you talking about!?

This is first time that I hear that somebody called OoT dark Zelda game. :)  Actually you are twisting the reality here, Zelda OoT isn't dark game and that is a fact.

Sold great beacuse is first 3D Zelda and probably best game ever!? Is that also twisting!?  Why MM also didnt sale great!?



Pavolink on 18 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
Pavolink said:
Miyamotoo said:

It is. Please stop this twist game to just fit to your interest. Read well: you are twisting the reality.

 

Miyamotoo said:

TP sold well because it's great Zelda launch game on best selling Nintendo console ever, not because of art style. You completely ignoring fact that TP was Zelda that was launch title, that itself is huge thing, but we are also talking about launch on best selling Nintendo console ever.

And Ocarina of Time sold that well without being a launch game. So, what's the excuse now? See, keep twisting.

Everyone wanted E3 2011 tech demo, but not in 2015, that demo doesn't look impressive at all by today standards, while Zelda U art style looks beautiful. I will make poll about that metter. What Nintendo mistakes I defending, what are you talking about!?

This is first time that I hear that somebody called OoT dark Zelda game. :)  Actually you are twisting the reality here, Zelda OoT isn't dark game and that is a fact.

Sold great beacuse is first 3D Zelda and probably best game ever!? Is that also twisting!?  Why MM also didnt sale great!?

 

Because it wasn't Ocarina of Time 2? Like Twilight Princess? You know, the one with realistic artstyle that it is a sequel to Ocarina of Time? And no, look again in the fanbase and see how many consider Ocarina of Time dark, just like TWW setting (post apocalypthic) dark too.



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Number ONE Zelda fan in the Universe

DKCTF didn't move consoles

Prediction: No Zelda HD for Wii U, quietly moved to the succesor

Predictions for Nintendo NX and Mobile


Miyamotoo on 18 December 2015
Pavolink said:
Miyamotoo said:
Pavolink said:
Miyamotoo said:

It is. Please stop this twist game to just fit to your interest. Read well: you are twisting the reality.

 

Miyamotoo said:

TP sold well because it's great Zelda launch game on best selling Nintendo console ever, not because of art style. You completely ignoring fact that TP was Zelda that was launch title, that itself is huge thing, but we are also talking about launch on best selling Nintendo console ever.

And Ocarina of Time sold that well without being a launch game. So, what's the excuse now? See, keep twisting.

Everyone wanted E3 2011 tech demo, but not in 2015, that demo doesn't look impressive at all by today standards, while Zelda U art style looks beautiful. I will make poll about that metter. What Nintendo mistakes I defending, what are you talking about!?

This is first time that I hear that somebody called OoT dark Zelda game. :)  Actually you are twisting the reality here, Zelda OoT isn't dark game and that is a fact.

Sold great beacuse is first 3D Zelda and probably best game ever!? Is that also twisting!?  Why MM also didnt sale great!?

 

Because it wasn't Ocarina of Time 2? Like Twilight Princess? You know, the one with realistic artstyle that it is a sequel to Ocarina of Time? And no, look again in the fanbase and see how many consider Ocarina of Time dark, just like TWW setting (post apocalypthic) dark too.

But also was realistic and dark, and didn't sell well at all. Two Zelda games are widely considered for darker, MM and TP, not OoT.





oniyide on 18 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
oniyide said:

well yeah, thats what bigger means. 

Last of Us is a bad comparison anyway as that was a new IP coming out toward the end of the gen so for its standards yeah its big. Now Zelda is a decades old franchise so its going to be held at a higher standard when talking about what is big or not. 

 

No, Last Of Us is great example that one of the biggest games does not equal one of the best selling games, and that was my point. Also Wii Play is one of the best selling games of previous gen, do you consider that for one of the "biggest" game of that gen!? I definitely not.

I do consider Wii Play as one of the biggest games. So lets leave it at that





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curl-6 on 19 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

No offense, and I'm gonna try to say this in the nicest way possible, but the common thread with you is that you see things through the lens of a diehard Nintendo loyalist. You see things as you want them to be, not as they actually are.

No, I see things like I think they will be and have good chance to be. 

What exactly is unrealistic to expect that Zelda U will be one of the best Zelda games or that LT Zelda U numbers both of Wii U and NX (especially when probably will be launch title on NX) can be similar to TP numbers!? Its not like I said that Zelda U will best game ever or that will pass 10m+ easily.

I'm gonna try to say this in the nicest way possible, but you see everything in worst case scenario and you not considering any other scenario.

It's unrealistic to expect TP numbers from Zelda U because if we presume a cross-gen launch it will be selling on (A) A system that's sold less than the Gamecube, and (B) An unproven system that has almost zero chance of selling as well as the Wii. So it will almost definitely have a vastly smaller install base to work with.

Also, in the age of the M-rated, realistic-styled AAA blockbuster, Zelda U won't have the mainstream appeal to reach beyond the existing Nintendo fanbase, which the Wii U shows is relatively small.

I deal in harsh realities. That doesn't mean I want things to be the way they are, but me pretending everything is fine when it's not doesn't help anybody.



JamesGoblin on 19 December 2015
Pavolink said:
Random_Matt said:
Nah, just lied about how far in development they were.


Something wrong must be happening at the Zelda team if they can't develop a game in a reasonable schedule (4 years).

Lots of wrong things is happening in game development all the time, 99% of which we typically never learn about =)





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Miyamotoo on 19 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

No offense, and I'm gonna try to say this in the nicest way possible, but the common thread with you is that you see things through the lens of a diehard Nintendo loyalist. You see things as you want them to be, not as they actually are.

No, I see things like I think they will be and have good chance to be. 

What exactly is unrealistic to expect that Zelda U will be one of the best Zelda games or that LT Zelda U numbers both of Wii U and NX (especially when probably will be launch title on NX) can be similar to TP numbers!? Its not like I said that Zelda U will best game ever or that will pass 10m+ easily.

I'm gonna try to say this in the nicest way possible, but you see everything in worst case scenario and you not considering any other scenario.

It's unrealistic to expect TP numbers from Zelda U because if we presume a cross-gen launch it will be selling on (A) A system that's sold less than the Gamecube, and (B) An unproven system that has almost zero chance of selling as well as the Wii. So it will almost definitely have a vastly smaller install base to work with.

Also, in the age of the M-rated, realistic-styled AAA blockbuster, Zelda U won't have the mainstream appeal to reach beyond the existing Nintendo fanbase, which the Wii U shows is relatively small.

I deal in harsh realities. That doesn't mean I want things to be the way they are, but me pretending everything is fine when it's not doesn't help anybody.

It's not unrealistic because: A) We already seeing same crazy attach rates for Nintendo games on Wii U. B) NX probably will be platform with handheld and home consoles were you can play same games on both devices, so basically handheld and home consoles users will buying same game.





curl-6 on 19 December 2015
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

It's unrealistic to expect TP numbers from Zelda U because if we presume a cross-gen launch it will be selling on (A) A system that's sold less than the Gamecube, and (B) An unproven system that has almost zero chance of selling as well as the Wii. So it will almost definitely have a vastly smaller install base to work with.

Also, in the age of the M-rated, realistic-styled AAA blockbuster, Zelda U won't have the mainstream appeal to reach beyond the existing Nintendo fanbase, which the Wii U shows is relatively small.

I deal in harsh realities. That doesn't mean I want things to be the way they are, but me pretending everything is fine when it's not doesn't help anybody.

It's not unrealistic because: A) We already seeing same crazy attach rates for Nintendo games on Wii U. B) NX probably will be platform with handheld and home consoles were you can play same games on both devices, so basically handheld and home consoles users will buying same game.

Those attach rates have still not stopped games on Wii U selling less than on their Wii versions. Mario 3D World still sold less than Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros 4 still sold less than Brawl. And if Zelda U is on NX, its Wii U sales will suffer still further, much like with TP on Gamecube.

And even if NX ends up being a handheld/console fusion, that is no guarantee at all it will sell Wii numbers. Nintendo home console + handheld sales this gen are at 67 million, far less than the Wii. 

But here's the kicker; both are in massive decline. Wii U will be an 85% sales decrease from Wii, 3DS about a 50% sales decrease from DS. This trend will likely continue into the next generation, so NX will probably sell considerably less than 3DS + Wii U.



oniyide on 20 December 2015
curl-6 said:
Miyamotoo said:
curl-6 said:

It's unrealistic to expect TP numbers from Zelda U because if we presume a cross-gen launch it will be selling on (A) A system that's sold less than the Gamecube, and (B) An unproven system that has almost zero chance of selling as well as the Wii. So it will almost definitely have a vastly smaller install base to work with.

Also, in the age of the M-rated, realistic-styled AAA blockbuster, Zelda U won't have the mainstream appeal to reach beyond the existing Nintendo fanbase, which the Wii U shows is relatively small.

I deal in harsh realities. That doesn't mean I want things to be the way they are, but me pretending everything is fine when it's not doesn't help anybody.

It's not unrealistic because: A) We already seeing same crazy attach rates for Nintendo games on Wii U. B) NX probably will be platform with handheld and home consoles were you can play same games on both devices, so basically handheld and home consoles users will buying same game.

Those attach rates have still not stopped games on Wii U selling less than on their Wii versions. Mario 3D World still sold less than Mario Galaxy, Smash Bros 4 still sold less than Brawl. And if Zelda U is on NX, its Wii U sales will suffer still further, much like with TP on Gamecube.

And even if NX ends up being a handheld/console fusion, that is no guarantee at all it will sell Wii numbers. Nintendo home console + handheld sales this gen are at 67 million, far less than the Wii. 

But here's the kicker; both are in massive decline. Wii U will be an 85% sales decrease from Wii, 3DS about a 50% sales decrease from DS. This trend will likely continue into the next generation, so NX will probably sell considerably less than 3DS + Wii U.

 

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