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Nem said:
Miyamotoo said:

TP HD is a new game. :)

It clear that NX will come out at end of next year.


Pokken tournament was officially revealed for the first time aswell. I'm sure there will be more, but its obvious that Nintendo is preparing other things. The NX wont release in 2016 though. Unless you want it to release with no games. 2017 earliest and most probable.


Nah, a holiday 2016 release makes most sense and based on Nintendo main teams dev cycles, it will have plenty of games ready.

Zelda will most likely be a cross-gen title, unless u really want NX to release in 2017 and not have a Zelda title until 2020 at the earliest.

Console 3D Mario take about 3 years to make, Galaxy-2007, Galaxy 2-2010, 3D World-2013, Mario NX-2016

Mario Kart releases every 3 years, DS-2005, Wii-2008, 3DS-2011, Wii U-2014, NX-2017

Retro Studios games release a little over 3 years apart, Prime 3- Aug 2007, DKC Returns-Nov 2010, Tropical Freeze-Feb 2014, NX Project-Q2/Q3 2017.

Game Freak releases a new Pokémon generation every 3-4 years, 1996, 1999, 2002, 2006, 2010, 2013, 2017.

That plus smaller outsourced titles and 3rd party collaborations give it a strong 1st year lineup.



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Here's a comparison of Wii and Wii U Twilight Princess footage, it's a night and day improvement:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSjP7qxsSzk

New details have been added, assets actually reworked, global illumination in effect, higher resolution, the frame rate seems a lot smoother too. AA and AF look much better.
The game looks much better on Wii U than the Wii version.



Nem said:
Miyamotoo said:

TP HD is a new game. :)

It clear that NX will come out at end of next year.


Pokken tournament was officially revealed for the first time aswell. I'm sure there will be more, but its obvious that Nintendo is preparing other things. The NX wont release in 2016 though. Unless you want it to release with no games. 2017 earliest and most probable.

Pokken Tournament Wii U is port of arcade game. We will have probably few games more, but nothing big. From E3 till now basically only new titles that are announced are ports/remasters and spinoff, its clear that Nintendo keeps 3DS/Wii U on that why while NX don't arrive at end of next year. All other big projects are for quiet time now in development for NX, saying that we in end of 2016. for launch of NX we will have new 3D Mario, port of Zelda U and maybe Retro game and something new. 2017. is latest when NX could launch, but much bigger chances are for 2016. launch, because all points for 2016. launch and basically nothing for 2017. launch.



good direct



The only thing that disappointed me was the last announcement being a fighter in SSB. I was like... are you kidding me? lol



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mountaindewslave said:
Scisca said:

Yeah, I agree. The Direct was crap, but I was totally expecting it. You can see they are trying to pretend as if it's all great in Nintendoland and they have us covered, but the reality is that well... Nintendo needs a brand new start. Badly. The only game that got me interested is DQ8 and I'd still rather play it on Vita in higher resolution than the crappy 3DS screen :/ I hated Amiibo being thrown in everywhere and talking about DLC all the time. I was neutral towards Amiibo at first, but after some time and hearing as more games had content and even levels hidden behind this paywall I got to really hate them. To me at this point it's just as bad as when MS was talking about TV at a certain conference...

SF0 looked nice during cut scenes, but as bad as previously during gameplay parts. I see this game as a massively missed opportunity. This could have been another Splatoon-level surprise hit, but looks like a filler instead.

TP HD... It looked fine at first, but after they showed Zelda U right after it, I realised just how little work they put into this port. Seriously, they put as little effort as they could. The art style is so much better than in Zelda U, but you can see the difference in grass being a totally flat texture in TPHD and actually being grass a moment later in Zelda U. It seems to me like they didn't do anything to this game, probably even used the original assets before the GCN/Wii would cut the resolution of textures. How much time did they invest into this port? Two weeks? I'd love to see a comparison of TPHD and Dolphin version of TP, something tells me Dolphin owns the Wii U version big time :/

Zelda U... Didn't like the way Epona looked. The flat colours were awful. The Direct was another proof that TP art style is miles better. At least the graphics level overall isn't as poor as in Star Fox. I expect Wii U games to look better than PS3 games and at least they reached that level here.


In general, Wii U is screwed in an unprecedented way. Next year will be brutal, no home console has ever been treated this badly. Just kill it already, Nintendo! And they didn't even cut the price, the way Sony and MS did. Just be done with it and roll NX out...

3DS is meh as well, but it's its last year, so it's decent enough. Fire Emblem and DQ8 are the only noteworthy games for me.



They better be preparing a bad ass launch lineup for NX and it better come in 2016... Otherwise, the future can be very, very bleak for Nintendo.

bleak for a company with like 10 billion in cash reserves and some of the most valuable character IPS in the world?

people can say what they want but Nintendo is not doing that poorly when you look at them as a whole with their 3DS and Amiibo's

the Wii U has been doing poorly since out of the gate. what did you all expect from this Nintendo Direct, a bunch of magical new titles for a system that nobody is buying?

get realistic you all, Nintendo has been thinking about and planning for the NX for a while. they have supported the Wii U fine, a lot better than some other companies (cough Sony / Vita)

the reality is that if Nintendo integrates their handheld and home console divisions they will have a smash success again. it's inevitable with having the Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Metroid, etc. IPs

in fact Nintendo has tons of room to work with, they have been criminally underusing certain IPS (Pokemon on home consoles, F-Zero, numerous RPG handheld franchises (cough Golden Sun), etc.)

get more realistic with your hopes guys! Nintendo Direct is supposed to be a communication device for Nintendo to show fans what to expect but it's not some E3 big reveal thing where they announce loads of games or necessarily present some revolutionary thing. I feel like a lot of people are being unrealistic with expectations and giving Nintendo an unjust hard time


Yes, very bleak. It doesn't matter how much cash you have rotting on your account when you are being forced out of your only business. Don't you think that the last 5 years already have been extremely bleak for a company that used to generate such massive profits? Don't you think N faces an uphill battle to remain on the gaming market? It already is almost redundant in home console space and mobile is going to gut the handheld division. Nintendo is up against the wall and they have to make a big time move.

Everyone here is realistic, why are you implying something else? I was expecting this ND to be shit, it was shit, so why calling it shit is being unrealistic?

Vita has a library twice as big as Wii U and the gap is only going to grow larger, so stop fooling yourself that Nintendo did a better job with Wii U that Sony with Vita. It didn't.

@bold - you are the one who should get realistic. Nothing is inevitable. Nintendo has to come out all guns blazing with a mindblowing offer much better than the competition to even get anyone's attention at this point. You see MS giving better Xbone offers than Sony with PS4 and people still choosing PS4? Nintendo is in an even worse situation than MS. They are on the outside looking in and NX is pretty much an all-in move in their case. They are not only losing market share, but also mind share, thus taking a "smash success" for granted is absurd, when they have to fight to even remain on the market. They can survive, they can succeed, but it's not granted in their current situation and will require a lot of work on their part - something I haven't seen from them since the peak years of Wii.



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