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3sexty on 08 November 2015
hudsoniscool said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Let's do a summary.

1.5M in US for first week and according to VGC the ROW make up 32% of sales(Halo 4). This gives us a projection of 2.2M at retail WW.

Now add digital. 20% is the upper limit for digital and I believe that Halo will be pushing that or exceeding it slightly so we'll stick with 20% of sales being digital. That brings the total up to 2.75M digital and retail.

Now we can project the LTD sales. According to VGC, 1st week accounted for 38% of LTD for Halo 4. This will project Halo 5 to have a LTD of 7.34M

So if rumor is correct and VGC data is reliable LTD sales should be between 6.6M and 8M.

That's isn't too bad for halo, but puts it below 2,3,4 and Reach.


Nice breakdown, however I believe digital is a little higher. Maybe even 30 percent, here's why. The halo 5 consoles were all digital, and the LE's were digital. Also I feel like people wanted to play right at midnight(9pm here on the west coast). Buying it digitally allowed people to download the big patch early. Anyway I think it's at least 20%. Also I feel like the 38% of ltd is fw is too low for this game. It's early in the gen and there's only 15 million consoles sold. If 343 doesn't put out a halo fps in the next year or 2 it will help h5's legs. Although if we go odst2 or something next year that would kill it. Seams like halo wars might come out late next year if it doesn't get delayed. I don't think a era will hurt its sales. And with all the free content being added that can only help. 

 

Anyway if u are right

2.75 million Fw and 7.34 LT isn't that bad for a console that isn't in great shape. Some people act like its the end of the world but that isn't really that bad.

Why do people keep saying that the xboxone is in a not so good state/ shape when it is still leading the 360 in the equivalent timeframe? Was the 360 in poor shape at the same time point in time? Not sure I understand this??



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DonFerrari on 08 November 2015
Snoopy said:

Halo 5 attach ratio is pretty good. If it sold about 3 million in the first week with only 15-18 million xbox one (going with 16 million) basically 1/5th of the xbox fanbase already bought it on week one. Im sure if there was as much xbox ones as there are when 360s when halo 4  was released then it would be just as good if not better in terms of sales. Halo 3 was lucky due to the fact that there was no competition at all. COD4 wasn't a thing yet.


Where did you get 15-18M HW sales?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

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DonFerrari on 08 November 2015
3sexty said:
hudsoniscool said:


Nice breakdown, however I believe digital is a little higher. Maybe even 30 percent, here's why. The halo 5 consoles were all digital, and the LE's were digital. Also I feel like people wanted to play right at midnight(9pm here on the west coast). Buying it digitally allowed people to download the big patch early. Anyway I think it's at least 20%. Also I feel like the 38% of ltd is fw is too low for this game. It's early in the gen and there's only 15 million consoles sold. If 343 doesn't put out a halo fps in the next year or 2 it will help h5's legs. Although if we go odst2 or something next year that would kill it. Seams like halo wars might come out late next year if it doesn't get delayed. I don't think a era will hurt its sales. And with all the free content being added that can only help. 

 

Anyway if u are right

2.75 million Fw and 7.34 LT isn't that bad for a console that isn't in great shape. Some people act like its the end of the world but that isn't really that bad.

Why do people keep saying that the xboxone is in a not so good state/ shape when it is still leading the 360 in the equivalent timeframe? Was the 360 in poor shape at the same time point in time? Not sure I understand this??

Because X360 started slow because there was expectations about PS3 release... soon X1 will drop bellow it, or you expect X1 to sell 85M+ if so as PS4 is selling almost 2:1 you expect PS4 to hit 170M?



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

blackwarryor on 08 November 2015

If this sales are true, i won't be surprised, there wasn't so much hype for this game in fact.



Zekkyou on 08 November 2015
3sexty said:

Why do people keep saying that the xboxone is in a not so good state/ shape when it is still leading the 360 in the equivalent timeframe? Was the 360 in poor shape at the same time point in time? Not sure I understand this??

It wasn't necessarily in 'poor shape', but the 360 did have quite a slow start, and had a very drawn out peak period (VGC numbers):

2005: 1.2m
2006: 6.8m
2007: 7.9m
2008: 10.9m
2009: 10.2m
2010: 13.3m
2011: 13.8m
2012: 10.7m
2013: 6.2m
2014: 2.6m

So while the X1 is presently a few million ahead, in relative terms it's outpacing a console that hasn't yet entered its very drawn out peak period. So unless the X1 sees a similar sales curve (which presently seems unlikely), or something happens to cause its sales to fly through the roof for the next few years, it will fall quite short of the 360 once all it said and done. It's not completely outside the realm of possibility that the X1 ends up ahead, it just looks rather unlucky right now.

That all said, i personally think those saying that the X1 is in a bad place are wrong. Even if it does fail to match its predecessor by a large margin, it's doing more than well enough to justify its existence. If it wasn't it wouldn't have such strong 3rd party support.



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jason1637 on 08 November 2015
DonFerrari said:
Snoopy said:

Halo 5 attach ratio is pretty good. If it sold about 3 million in the first week with only 15-18 million xbox one (going with 16 million) basically 1/5th of the xbox fanbase already bought it on week one. Im sure if there was as much xbox ones as there are when 360s when halo 4  was released then it would be just as good if not better in terms of sales. Halo 3 was lucky due to the fact that there was no competition at all. COD4 wasn't a thing yet.


Where did you get 15-18M HW sales?


He made it up lol



jason1637 on 08 November 2015
SWORDF1SH said:
Let's do a summary.

1.5M in US for first week and according to VGC the ROW make up 32% of sales(Halo 4). This gives us a projection of 2.2M at retail WW.

Now add digital. 20% is the upper limit for digital and I believe that Halo will be pushing that or exceeding it slightly so we'll stick with 20% of sales being digital. That brings the total up to 2.75M digital and retail.

Now we can project the LTD sales. According to VGC, 1st week accounted for 38% of LTD for Halo 4. This will project Halo 5 to have a LTD of 7.34M

So if rumor is correct and VGC data is reliable LTD sales should be between 6.6M and 8M.

That's isn't too bad for halo, but puts it below 2,3,4 and Reach.


Since x1 is around 14.5m and if it sold 2.75m in 5 days then thats above 20% which is a good attach rate.

Also do you think it could have reached 3m witht he other 3 days of tracking?



Insidb on 08 November 2015
AlfredoTurkey said:
jason1637 said:


I think activision owns them


Yeah but that's up in 5 years. 

5 long, microtransaction-filled years lol.



Insidb on 08 November 2015
Puppyroach said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Let's do a summary.

1.5M in US for first week and according to VGC the ROW make up 32% of sales(Halo 4). This gives us a projection of 2.2M at retail WW.

Now add digital. 20% is the upper limit for digital and I believe that Halo will be pushing that or exceeding it slightly so we'll stick with 20% of sales being digital. That brings the total up to 2.75M digital and retail.

Now we can project the LTD sales. According to VGC, 1st week accounted for 38% of LTD for Halo 4. This will project Halo 5 to have a LTD of 7.34M

So if rumor is correct and VGC data is reliable LTD sales should be between 6.6M and 8M.

That's isn't too bad for halo, but puts it below 2,3,4 and Reach.

Except according to MS, it's the best selling digital title of all time on the Xbox store for the first week, and there digital titles that have sold more than 500000 the first week.

Keep in mind that the PR announcement specifically stated "for an opening week," which could very well exclude any games that has launched previously to their sale on the XBox Store.



SWORDF1SH on 08 November 2015
jason1637 said:
SWORDF1SH said:
Let's do a summary.

1.5M in US for first week and according to VGC the ROW make up 32% of sales(Halo 4). This gives us a projection of 2.2M at retail WW.

Now add digital. 20% is the upper limit for digital and I believe that Halo will be pushing that or exceeding it slightly so we'll stick with 20% of sales being digital. That brings the total up to 2.75M digital and retail.

Now we can project the LTD sales. According to VGC, 1st week accounted for 38% of LTD for Halo 4. This will project Halo 5 to have a LTD of 7.34M

So if rumor is correct and VGC data is reliable LTD sales should be between 6.6M and 8M.

That's isn't too bad for halo, but puts it below 2,3,4 and Reach.


Since x1 is around 14.5m and if it sold 2.75m in 5 days then thats above 20% which is a good attach rate.

Also do you think it could have reached 3m witht he other 3 days of tracking?

What other 3 days?